Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Or they can just drop an actual skin or skins for Di’s in game. I’m fine with both historical and semi-historical ones

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It should have the same weapons as techtree M4 so yes R-60MK

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those are some hot liveries

Might ask for it as a nice little christmas gift lol

I don’t know if I will pull the trigger. I was innitially excited as I embarked on the Gripen grind path a week ago. But I managed to almost research the Gripen C just by spading the AJ37 / JA37C and JA37D in SB since they added the Viggen Di to the devserver. :D

The research bonus for new nation helps a ton. I often get 15-25k RP extra after battle (SB) just for this bonus alone.

Dunno. Maybe some extra slick camo would convince me.

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Could you show its loadouts? Thx in advance.

This is why I’m iffy about it since I got the event Tornado and the Mig 23MF

Well I want to have all the Viggens in game so buying it is mandatory (especially with that pre order title)

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@Smin1080p_WT Will there be other new weapons for Mirage 2000D-RMV(except the LGBs)?

Absolute mad man lol

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The two Mi-35M are the exact same, but the Pakistani one has less pre-made loadouts, which doesn’t really matter because you can just create them with custom loadouts.

Same with the two JA 37Di, where the difference is even smaller, just the skin.

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Will they fix 32:9 screen HUD position? Give us the possibility to move RADAR and RWR position please, they are in the middle of screen :(

The Di will be foldered with D. You would technically own them all, just not the one belonging to a certain squadron.

Pessimistically speaking, they may just “accept” it like that and put him on hold. Gaijin has done the same thing for many small country issues, hasn’t them.

There is nothing preventing it from locking a ground target, the IR signature range it uses is the same that’s needed to target ground targets.

The issue is that the missile locks on after launch without any input from the carrier aircraft, so it would be very easy to accidentally teamkill if the bomb sees a teammate and locks it. This can be worked around with practice, but it won’t be nearly as convenient and many times with enemies close to allies you couldn’t engage them without risking teamkills at all.

In naval it could be more useful, but save for maybe the T-1 series or MU-2 (both not yet in the game) no aircraft that could carry them could be used in naval BRs. There’s still AI ships though

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@Smin1080p_WT well, you asks for reports about the clipping issues, but it got not a bug, its rubber accroding to then… even tho its metal…
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hzzgGp9ZyTMq

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According to these parameters, Gripen does not really pull 13.7. (I’m not saying “lower” it, rather “raise” the others)
It has 1.5-2 times less current missiles (F-16’s, MiG-29SMT, J-10a and Mirage 2000’s have 6 ARH missiles, F-15’s, Su-27SM and Su-34 have 8 ARH missiles) (9M are used from a distance at which it is easier to die than to shoot down someone at the top range, besides, they are rather… “tight” with their 0.4 s control delay) and far from top acceleration.
At the beginning of Dev, my friends and I conducted some kind of test, approximately measuring the time spent on it. The test was aimed at checking how long it takes for the aircraft to reach the point for DVB, go into defense, leave it and be ready for an attack again. The precise attack speed was M1.5. We measured the runway takeoff, acceleration at ground level, altitude gain, reaching attack speed, we replaced 2 90-degree turns with 1 180-degree turn, and then acceleration to M1.5 again. Both Gripen and Mirage did really badly in these tests (we dragged the Su-34 there for fun, we didn’t expect anything from it), but the Mirage test, to be honest, was compromised so its time should be taken conditionally. During an attempt “behind the scenes”, another friend improved the time by almost a minute.

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The test also included, for fun, a modded Typhoon from [Noffie_]

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Why an empty spoiler?

At the same time, several others were also accepted. If this part is a rubber / non-metal part then yes, it won’t be part of the collision model.