It really depends who you ask here lol. One person says they are F-15C late counterparts, the next person says they are F-15E late/15EX counterparts and the third person says they are world beaters that can even contest the F-22.
As mostly a tanker it’s both confusing and super funny.
In WVR, the Typhoon T3 and 4 are roughly F-22 counterparts, however BVR is a different story due to stealth capabilities of the F-22, so it isn’t as simple as some make it out to be.
Here’s hoping and I have a fat wad of cash waiting to be spent for when Gaijin decides it’s time.
Then:
1- Why has the Abrams turret ring been mismodelled since 2018 despite the numerous bug reports over the years?
2- Why has TUSK II been non-removable since SEPv2’s introduction despite being acknowledged as an issue?
3- Why are SEP and SEPv2’s turrets still the same as regular A2’s despite the numerous bug reports proving they feature armor improvements? (Specially the sides).
4- Why is the hydraulic reservoir still modelled as “fuel pump” even though the fuel pump is actually a much smaller module located on a much more convenient place despite having been bug reported months ago and only accepted a month ago?
5- Why do 2006 M1A2 SEPv2 and M1A1 AIM still have the baseline 1979 hull armor despite having been confirmed that they have improved armor, even if not with verified values? Why can’t they model it after well-educated guesstimates based on the available sources just like every other classified tank in the game?
6- If Gaijin is so keen on keeping the Abrams as glass canons, why won’t they at least give SEPv2 its historical M829A3 she’ll so that it feels like an actual upgrade in at least ONE way? Can’t be argued that “it would be OP”, since they officially stated that “it wouldn’t change much ingame anyway”.
7- Why is M1A1 AIM missing its historical KEW-A2 shell, despite being worse than the M829A2 HC and Click-Bait have at the exact same BR?
8- Why are the front fuel tank bulkhead thicknesses and geometries still wrong despite all the bug reports since 2018?
9- Why could the Abrams engine sound be heard from up to a 320m radius while idle until just a few months ago, when they only partially corrected the situation but still can be heard from way further away than it should?
10- I could list numerous more examples, but I’m going back to sleep, since I woke up too early and I have an exam I must be rested for in a few hours xD.
Just curious, since “U.S mains are so handheld by Gaijin every time they cry”.
Can I just point out the list of issues on the CR2 is longer and when we complained about them, they nerfed the CR2 further.
And the Challenger 3, despite most sources saying it has a 1500HP engine.
I mean, the very Ministry of Defence stated that it’s 1,200 BHP (1,217HP).
https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2024-03-11/17793
The funny thing is, Gaijin didn’t even bother to concert BHP to HP and stole 17HP from 3(TD).
They were so quick to nerf the engine, yet they are taking an eternity to give it the HP they removed in excess.
The enormous list of unaddressed Abrams issues is enough to prove that Gaijin doesn’t “handhold U.S mains as soon as they cry”.
I don’t know why it has to be a competition now with the whole “but our list of issues is even longer” thing.
The thing that hurts me the most here, is that they nerfed it to 1200, took them a week, but when report came that it should be 1217 they refuse to do it for months.
All because they are incapable of reading and changing units.
Even by mere logic they should question why every other Challenger using the same engine has 1,217 hp while 3 (TD) alone has 1,200.
Because changing two digits on a single line of code takes so much effort (interestingly though it didn’t seem to take as much effort to implement the nerf as it seems to take to correct it).
That is because they had to change one digit 1500->1200. Changing two is much harder.
It’s kinda sad that the Challengers are so mediocre we are fighting over getting 17 extra missing HP in one of them lmao
Also sad how 3 (TD) was kept with a 6 second reload unlike every other Challenger and now every other 120mm MBT besides the Leopards, making it practically pointless to spawn at all compared to the other CR2s.
I think these sources are all “supposed”? From I see, all existing Challenger 3 is 1200hp, so Challenger 3 can’t get a 1500 engine until it’s installed or announced.
add all tanks and jets and helis of the entire world to france lol
WTD-61 in game is based on an early test variant with no targeting pod.
I was surprised how poor the survivability is with the challengers, in my opinion they do nothing better then the leos or abrams.
Then why does it have the radar for tracking sea targets other than the obvious reason its straight copy of the MFG Tornado with the Kormorans removes as a quick cashgrab? Wouldnt a early Tornado pre ASSTA1 upgrade have made more sense to add instead?
Erm, isn’ the Challenger 2 the only “vehicle” thread to have two parts?
Not being critical of your post, but @hienapunk that bit might be worth remembering. There’s only so much yelling that can be done via CBR and Forums, and frankly a lot of people have been worn down by the apparent intransigence of Snail
the radar is the same radar all IDS tornados have
it should be on all versions
Just with the fact that only the MFG has an working search radar for some r3ason
This effectively is a Pre-ASSTA Tornado. With no targeting pod.