Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

There is an opinion that this is a completely useless weapon against the SPAA presented in the game.

Why do you need them? To do nothing? Or to launch them at ships in test flights?

which isn’t true

the only SPAAs in game that it couldn’t track would be those without scanning radar and the pantsir

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oh ho why is it about needing all of a sudden?

why do you need the same Tornado again? to do nothing the other one couldn’t do either?

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The SPAA radars in the game are too small. Also, the HARM has a remote detonation and deals damage primarily with fragments, all that the HARM will do in the game is break the radar and possibly hit the crew members.

Launch them at ships in Air EC.

not even gonna argue about that with him

people just ignore the most fun Gamemodes it seems

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I’d still like them for AI (larger) radar targets in EC.

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Do I need LJDAM, which is significantly better than Paveway II, or are you suggesting waiting for ECR, which I may not introduce at all, or Typhoon, which is delayed until 2025?

except that SPAA radars aren’t “too small”

if they emit a signal strong enough to detect you then they emit a signal strong enough to be tracked by a HARM

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Funny how the best game mode in War Thunder is the one receiving the least attention by devs. Imagine if it were actually getting some real development from a larger team.

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I have already told you this is wrong. SLE adds

  • LITENING III targeting pod (3rd gen thermals)
  • BOZ 101 EC Increase to 200 chaff or flares and missile alert warning system
  • BOW radar warning receiver that can detect C to L band
  • Night vision for pilot
  • Reinforced landing gear

And for weapons…

Air-to-air Missiles

  • AIM-9L/I-1 Sidewinder
  • AIM-2000 IRIS-T
  • AIM-120 AMRAAM (via MFRL)

Guided Munitions

  • GBU-54 LJDAM
  • GBU-24 Paveway III
  • GBU-16 Paveway II
  • AS.34 Kormoran II
  • AGM-88 HARM
  • ARMIGER (Anti Radiation Missile with Intelligent Guidance & Extended Range)
  • HOPE glide bomb
  • HOSBO glide bomb
  • LaGS (Laser Guided Sidewinder)
  • Taurus KEPD 350

Dumb Munitions

  • 500 lb Mk 82
  • 1000 lb Mk 83
  • BL755
  • Mehrzweckwaffe 1 (MW-1)

Ammunition

  • 27 mm DM83 PELE (no tracer)
  • 27 mm DM93 PELE (tracer)

Stop spouting BS

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So in terms of WT basically nothing different thanks for clearing that up.

Will you give an example of HARM defeating something like 2S6? Or will you continue throwing empty words?

LJDAM…

Which its flight characteristics won’t make it much different to the Paveways

I have already told you this is wrong. SLE adds

  • LITENING III targeting pod (3rd gen thermals)
  • BOZ 101 EC Increase to 200 chaff or flares and missile alert warning system
  • BOW radar warning receiver that can detect C to L band
    Night vision for pilot Irrelevant for the game
    Reinforced landing gear Irrelevant for the game
    And for weapons…

Air-to-air Missiles

AIM-9L/I-1 Sidewinder
AIM-2000 IRIS-T will not be added yet, thus I suggested delaying it
AIM-120 AMRAAM (via MFRL) not true/ show proof
Guided Munitions

GBU-54 LJDAM
GBU-24 Paveway III
GBU-16 Paveway II
both already on ASSTA 1
AS.34 Kormoran II
AGM-88 HARM
can Both be added to ASSTA 1
ARMIGER (Anti Radiation Missile with Intelligent Guidance & Extended Range)
HOPE glide bomb
HOSBO glide bomb
LaGS (Laser Guided Sidewinder)
these are industrial Prototypes, none in service
Taurus KEPD 350 I suggested the delay because this weapon type won’t be added to the game yet
Dumb Munitions

500 lb Mk 82
1000 lb Mk 83
already on ASSTA 1
BL755
Mehrzweckwaffe 1 (MW-1)
weapon type not in game and can be added to ASSTA 1
Ammunition

27 mm DM83 PELE (no tracer)
27 mm DM93 PELE (tracer)
Stop spouting [] ← inappropriate

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Im also quite intrigued by this statement

literally every time he answers me he adds something new that nobody has ever heard of

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You are simply a layman if you do not understand the difference between a bomb that is located only by a laser (and can only be seen from 3 km away) and a bomb that initially flies to the specified coordinates and can be corrected by a laser.