Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Praying for Japan to get ASEAN I need that F15SG

I mean, Israel is a good option for the close technical connection. Though I wouldn’t say I don’t want it in Japan. Then there’s also still that option of an ASEAN tree if Gaijin want to do that instead.

I’d take all of these over Singapore going to China

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Yea true I forgot about Israel

But yea you see the problem though ?

You complain about one small group of people with a broad term so people are bound to think they are in the crossfire. Even if they just said it once. It’s like using the biggest brush possible you can find just to do the skirting board

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@gromvoiny We got any more preorders coming for this patch or is the obj 140 the only one?

Oh! OH! OH! I’m in! :D

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ASRAAM and Meteor tornado F3 when

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So how many premium vehicles we will have in this update?

Cn tech tree needs major reorganisation both for air and ground .

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Highly unlikely without something like electronic warfare to counter it, otherwise it just wouldn’t be fun gameplay and gameplay > realism.

My understanding (and it could be wrong) is that the notch gate on the sparrows is a speed gate and so anything not having a high enough closure rate is just ignored, regardless of being painted. Anecdotally this seems to be the case as I’ve had sparrows even on a strong radar like the APG-63 just not track on cold targets at close range, because we were going at similar speeds.

In addition, if that was even a concern, there is also the prototype J/APG-1 fitted on the XF-2A that only had some modules turned on, so it’d be weaker and it could have been used as a justification.

Ultimately it’s a game and again gameplay takes priority over realism. Just like how AAM-4 (and other ARH) have unrealistically low performance seeker heads and in some cases just raw kinematic performance. AAM-4 shouldn’t be comparable to an AIM-120A, it should be comparable to an AIM-120C-5, for example, yet it was nerfed for gameplay balance.

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India has been on the Brit tree for actual years man and I’d rather when a nation gets put as a subtree all their vehicles go to that same tree so people that want to play that nation can do so without having to grind 4 different nations and never being able to use their vehicles together even in a custom.

Instead of Germanys’ situation - getting Canadian Leo 1 event and Leo 2 prem but then the all the Canadian TT vehicles aren’t in the German tech tree, feels like it wasn’t thought out very well especially when they could’ve received things like the Swiss Panzer 68 and Leo 2 Revolution in their place respectively.

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Idk about that one you seen the Leo 2 depression changes? It’s not realistic because there’s an override for it IRL that their not implementing and it directly hurts gameplay.

Has anyone made a bug report about that? Turning off the stab ingame should allow you to depress, but I doubt anything would change without a bug report.

Consider that it’s a possible balancing tool that aligns with realism. Perhaps they thought the Leo overperformed and decided to nerf it, using realism as a justification.

Whether we agree with it or not, the ulterior motive seems to come back to gameplay.

Might be early wip or just a CnP premium

Probably C&P premium, i’d guess the J35XS isn’t selling well after the rocket nerf

Well because it’s not the focus this update. Why it hasn’t been added before is anyone’s guess. However now that we are seeing P/AESA on aircraft, hopefully the F-2 shows up in the big December update as Japan’s crowning addition.

Depends which version they add. If they did the same thing they did with the F-15J(M), they’ll add an F-2 with J/APG-1 and HMD but no AAM-5 or AAM-4B. It may or may not have the sniper pod along with L-JDAMs which should function like the new Paveway IVs IIRC, having both GPS guidance and Laser guidance packaged into one.

The flight model should be at minimum like the Gripen and at best a bit better than it, but that assumes maybe with just 2 wingtip AAM-3s as AAM-4s, especially 4 of them, are heavy. If it’s somehow worse than the F-16AJ then we have issues lol.

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They must be smoking something is they think that JA37Di with CnP weaponry would sell well

The Leopard 2A7 and Swedish/Hungarian derivatives is the best tank in the game by a long margin.

I mean the German’s are getting a C&P Su-22 but yea this patch is all about filling this premium gaps I think, possibly getting ready for the new shiny toys