Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Actually as stealthy as it was, just look at the devstream, just because the Nighthawk was at a slight angle it was able to be immediately detected and he had a solid lock. The F-117’s sole advantage is stealth, so maybe they need to at least model it correctly.

even if you cant see it on radar it doesnt stop any spaa from easily shooting you down not that your flight model will help with that either all you have to do to find it is T 6 1 to find it, not to mention you have the same impact that a drone would have on the game for no reason at a higher br just for better stealth

which is currently just a copy paste of the 120A.

The ICE also has the 120B iirc

IRL it should be stealth from all angles until a certain range or unless the bomb bays or gear are open

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120b and a are the same. the f15e will be better due to it having the apg 70 over the apg 63.

also it should get better engine. will be worse in turn by a bit BUT have better radar

Whilst I am incredibly excited to see the F-15I Ra’am coming, it is unfortunate that it does not seem to have any of the domestic kit which makes it unique. I mean just look at all this missing :

Also, and somewhat more trivial, what’s with the paint job?

It seems to depict Ra’am in the colours of 133rd Squadron, but from what i can tell they only operated Baz?. Just about every image on the internet of Ra’am depicts it in the much more iconic desert colours of 69th Squadron?

69th Paintjob still WIP or something?

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By the way, the Israeli F-15I will get the F100-229 engines (stated by BVVD himself on the russian devstream)

they said theay wont give it better engine, the reason is beacuse they want it worst than the f15C in air superiority

“full stealth” is literally impossible. You cannot make a plane invisible from every angle, from every radar, and at any range.

The only thing that comes close to full stealth is when the air is so full of SEAD/DEAD no one wants to turn their radar on to begin with

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They are the same as far as I remember, only the engines should be different (Not significant)

No aircraft is 100% stealth. Just because its RCS (Radar Cross-Section) is 0.001 m2 (or 0.0108 sq ft for those too lazy to convert) doesn’t mean it is invisible, it just mean it is incredibly unlikely to be seen by radar.

Yes thats what I mean, it should be more unlikely, bad wording on my part

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over there is a really fast bee-bird type shi

i hope so. just like the m2kd-r1 added to dev server after updating

and one day, we will have the Mach 2 bumblebee… in the year 2077
anyway, F-15E and SU-34 in the game already is a surprise

As an aside I am highly doubting that we’re going to have fully modeled RCS (unless I missed it in the dev stream). I imagine it’ll at best be 4-8 sectors of varying detectability, and at worst simply having a reduced range at all angles

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In the current WT, RCS is determined solely by the size of the aircraft, and does not change depending on the angle, etc.

reduced detection wont even really matter that much if f117 cant kill the enemy plane, at best it becomes a stand still

Tornado F.3 Late and F-4F ICE players be like

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From what I understand too even sometimes stealth aircraft can be detected on RADAR but RADAR systems may struggle or be unable to lock or maintain lock.

Edit: Then this paired with EW, stealth aircraft are going to be a nightmare later on.