Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Neither has a sub tree, and Argentina isn’t a sub nation of Germany.

If India is a subtree for Britain, then Switzerland and Argentina are for Germany, at least enough so that something like an Argentinian F-16 or Swiss Hornet aren’t unreasonable.

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What’s the problem with shell rooms?

India isn’t a sub tree of Britain. Gaijin not knowing the difference between a subordination of a tree and a nation doesn’t make India have a sub tree.

As for Argentina, it has been directly and explicitly stated that Argentina is not a sub nation of Germany.

I remember Gaijin saying the other way

It is a sub nation.

Basically, they shouldn’t detonate upon impact; and even less so as easily as they currently do (all it takes is a single hit)… and even less so with such catastrophic results (one-hit death or, best case scenario, your entire ammo storage is depleted after causing significant crew, module and buoyancy damages).

For the record- do not confuse shell rooms with magazines! Magazines are fine as of now. It’s the shell rooms that are mismodelled.

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I have hard time seeing the difference ingame.

A sub tree is a subordination of tree (a line). A sub nation is a subordination of a nation (a dependent nation).

Cool if they work on that, French ammorack are probably the worst: big, not protected and all…

Would be a big plus if a hit inside don’t mean kaboom :p

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Sub-Tree, think South Africa, with a full line in the ground and vehicles scattered about.

Sub-Nation, think india, with only a small selection vehicles, all premiums, events and SQVs. None on the TT

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Ok but that’s a really ‘small’ differences.

If Gaijin incorpored the vehicles from SA but put them whatever where they want, it’s not a subTT but a subNation but don’t change anything except location of the vehicles.

It is and it isnt.

Let me put it this way. If India was a Sub-TT. I would expect we would eventually get the Rafale. As a Sub-Nation, we shouldnt and hopefully also wont get any of the really bad soviet C&Ps on our actual TT. Instead just a select few premiums here or there

But even if that’s the case, a subTT or subNation don’t mean ALL vehicles from them gonna come in the game, Smin already said something like that.

Last I recall, Gaijin has things to the opposite effect.

And yet India isn’t despite Gaijin saying things to the contrary? Regardless, an Argentinian F-16 for Germany would make far more sense then a fictional German F-15.

Semantics

Smin said, a couple of weeks ago, that they were finally looking into it… so I am looking forward to it!

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I never said that India isn’t a sub nation. Please don’t ignore key details

Differentiating between “nation” and “tree”, two entirely different words with not even remotely similar meanings, is not semantics. A sub nation and a sub tree are wholly different things.

surely france gets something in its air tree right? maybe even in the belgium line

The Mirage 2000D RMV.

There was a guy who made his own and even got hired by gaijin so theres that for you