I know, I’ve been missing a helicopter in my TTD setup for a long time.
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I’m certain they’re not being added wrt being player-controlled air defence, due to being low-detail NPC assets like the Wings of Prey -era stuff on Air RB maps. Also, Patriot ( along w/ the other three kinds of static SAM site in the files ) was named as being an appropriate kind of target for anti-radiation missiles, in the dev Q&A 's where they talked abt why they hadn’t been adding that type of weapon for use against player-controlled SPAA.
I can’t say what kind of performance MIM-104 might be given, but the S-75 has already been added to the files in a way that might give a clue:
It 's obviously a placeholder, since it 's identical to the file for ATACMS apart from the visual model ( neither of which have been added yet, though the textures for S-75 are in the CDK ). Since it 's unlikely these static SAM 's will be player-controlled, the performance of their missile will probably be more arbitrary - just enough for them to work, and then whatever adjustments the design of gameplay asks for. And probably symmetrical performance between " East " and " West " type systems as a result.
Still more fair than the old AI AA and it 's timed deathsphere - atleast w/ these new SAM 's having actual missile files we can have the bare minimum of " evasive manoeuvres having a meaningful effect on the chances of being hit ", which due to the mechanics of the old system just isn’t possible currently.
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And what, actually, is the problem with ARH Air-to-ground? Tankers, in the overwhelming majority, do not look at the sky, looking for a trace of a launched Maverick. And, of course, they do not counter (massively) IR missiles launched at them by launching an aerosol curtain. So what difference does it make whether a Maverick, Kh-29/38 or Brimstone hits a tank?
If the gaijin are so afraid for tankers - let the smoke screens of tanks be considered smoke-metal from some BR and work like dipoles.
For now, it looks like “not a major nation → so it doesn’t matter”
P.S. Written by “not a tanker” so I may not understand the problems, that’s why I’m asking
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Also, if gaijin wanted to the f15E can carry AGM-179 JAGM-F which has a Semi active laser(SAL) mode just like the brimstone has.
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The laser variant would be the GBU-39B/B. The way you can tell the GPS only and dual mode apart is by the nose, the GPS one has the pointy nose (as seen in the teaser) and the dual mode one has a round nose, as it uses the same laser seeker from the LJDAM.
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Yeah good spot!
I wonder- what are the gameplay implications of stealth planes like F-117?
Radars can’t lock on them easily? They don’t show up on these…?
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Guess we will know tomorrow, I’m starting to wonder if they really are going to add stealth in the first place… I mean they’re obliged to if they add such a plane aren’t they?
“What’s worse, the attacker can attack wantonly outside the effective range of any air Defence system in the game without worrying about being shot down.”
KH38: Kids, this is not me.
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I think they will have an affect, but considering the BR, a barely noticable one as not a lot has radar to begin with.
Its the IR reduction stuff that is going to be the most interesting I think. Will IRST struggle to get a lock for example? Will it be like trying to get an IR seeker to lock onto a drone? Could this spark the start to an IR overhaul?
If the IR reduction is implemented i sure hope you get some reduction on your harriers too.
Anyway even if this is low BR i plan on forcing it to higher tiers because it will be too cursed to bring a Nighthawk with 10.0 stuff lol. I really wonder how it’s gonna do as it’s a first, i expect to see a lot of major changes during the dev server and even after the patch drops.
Please God please give Italy a Patriot System. All I want is to be competitive in SOME manner at top tier please just gives us a Patriot PLEASE.
So turn’s out that hole “Your nations just received a new top tier jet” classic line was more false then ever.
USA - This update
F-15E
F-117
USA- Last update
F-111F
AV-8
A-10C
USA- update Before that
F-15C
AV-8B Plus
USA - you get the picture
F-20
USA
F-15A
So how come minor nations get told to suck it up even with subs while the US get at least 1 or 2 top tier jet’s in an update
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Yeah, fingers crossed too on that one.
Yeah, I can see it being a niche bring, always something maybe better at most BRs but its wierdly usable at all BRs. Though I doubt at top tier.
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I mean, prior to the latest BR changes you could have used the Lynx, which is pretty powerful at that BR
Well, U.S has produced more Top Tier-worthy jets and variants than nearly all other ingame nations combined, so it’s kinda inevitable…
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Not to this extent, however.
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Only true if war thunder doesn’t bend the rule for every nation the Germans could of easily got the F-15 like the AJ. Or a sub like us Brits
Whilst true, my major objection to that would be the sheer list of aircraft never added for other nations. Whilst they might not all be “top tier” I think you could easily match the US on the number of available additions. (and thats without even mentioning sub-trees)
For Britain for example:
- 5-6 Hawk variants
- many Hunter Variants
- Some options for additionally Harrier Variants
- Still got the Jaguar GR3A
- V-Bombers
etc etc
heck we dont even have a proper bomber variant of the Mosquito yet
But US gets the most because its the most popular nation. Look at naval, focusing only on WW1/WW2. Britain should have a tree twice the size of any other nation in game quite easily. But its one of the smallest in game
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I think that it would be much harder to lock, and would cause the radar to be wonky/inaccurate.
It might make a top tier quality radar act like an early radar or something like that. I am curious as to how it will work.
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