Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

The vehicles FM limitations balanced by it’s payload.
I would have even taken 6 FnF Brimstones as a balance compromise (although we shouldnt have to)

well and friendly fighters

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While y’all fume about the Tornado,

I’m going to kill time until the teaser by grinding out Bretagne.

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While it sucks it’s not FnF, as long as they have good range, should be better than bombs? Faster time to target, ripple firing, etc.

The worst part is that it’s on the Tornado which is probably going to be a boat and be hard to avoid SPAA.

Also @Smin1080p_WT , is there any word about LOAL for stuff like the Type 81c and its ARH missile?

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the usual reasons

Dont know how your avoiding death wihtout flying high? I always climb to 6-8km around 15km out to lob my pgms. Any lower or closer and it gets more and more anoying trying to acquire targets without being shot out of the sky.

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I am gonna keep on spading germany air. Give me strenght to get through all the Stukas. 8/10 nations done… i am soo close

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Im assuming the Gr4 will be 12.0

I rarely play the GR1 below 12.0 because Bluefor has no fighters at 11.7 unless you get a load of Mirage F1Cs on your team. The better engine, Aim-9M and HMD will mean you are more survivable at 12.0. So I dont think i’ll play the Gr1 over the Gr4. But yeah, convoy destroying was what I was hoping for the most.

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Im gonna bet that the gr 4 will be 12.3 minimum in air. there is no way they put it at a decent br as its british. Im just glad i got a talisman on my gr 1 in anticipation. Although the only thing the tornado was missing was hmd so it may be okay.

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I will say, the Kh-38’s were meant, along with adding the SM3 specifically, to give the USSR/RU something other than super close CAS done in earlier Su-25’s or shitty-gimbal LGB bombing (with either no defensive missiles, or only two bombs) in the MiG-27’s as a way to keep pace, to some degree with the orbital space bombardment that was/is meta in Top Tier GRB.

Without that, USSR doesn’t have good enough CAS to not be SPAA food, even if the Pantsir is better at AD against the enemy team.

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Each candle represents a sacrifice given to the snail itself

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The PGM is a stand off muntion though will the Brimstone accelerate off the rail fast enough to destroy the target before you are over the BF and then just dead?

When System Anti Air OTAN GAIJIN???

Thats my main worry, whats the point of brimstones if they would have just been better on a heli. Your gonna be well within the envelope of spaa while your still guiding in the brimstones.

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I just cant see why it would be higher than 12.0. Tornado MFG/WTD61/A200 are 11.3, then I just cant think of why Aim-9M+HMD would push it higher than 12.0. Gunna be weaker than the Mirage F-1C at least for A2A combat, especially in Sim and thats only 11.7 in sim.

But unless yeah, they just want to screw over Britain

The SM3 for reasons that escape me is 12.3 despite being WORSE at air combat than the Su-25T at 11.7

Considering what I said about ASB, the lack of understanding of the contact’s identity radically increases the chance of a team kill.

Its bs that nato equipment has to be gimped when the kh38 is in the game.

You manage to get locks on vehicles with the PGMs at that range? My PGMs always refuse to lock at “safe” distances

the snail better be happy …
or else …
some garlic butter might get some extra use

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