While it sucks it’s not FnF, as long as they have good range, should be better than bombs? Faster time to target, ripple firing, etc.
The worst part is that it’s on the Tornado which is probably going to be a boat and be hard to avoid SPAA.
Also @Smin1080p_WT , is there any word about LOAL for stuff like the Type 81c and its ARH missile?
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Dont know how your avoiding death wihtout flying high? I always climb to 6-8km around 15km out to lob my pgms. Any lower or closer and it gets more and more anoying trying to acquire targets without being shot out of the sky.
I am gonna keep on spading germany air. Give me strenght to get through all the Stukas. 8/10 nations done… i am soo close
Im assuming the Gr4 will be 12.0
I rarely play the GR1 below 12.0 because Bluefor has no fighters at 11.7 unless you get a load of Mirage F1Cs on your team. The better engine, Aim-9M and HMD will mean you are more survivable at 12.0. So I dont think i’ll play the Gr1 over the Gr4. But yeah, convoy destroying was what I was hoping for the most.
Im gonna bet that the gr 4 will be 12.3 minimum in air. there is no way they put it at a decent br as its british. Im just glad i got a talisman on my gr 1 in anticipation. Although the only thing the tornado was missing was hmd so it may be okay.
I will say, the Kh-38’s were meant, along with adding the SM3 specifically, to give the USSR/RU something other than super close CAS done in earlier Su-25’s or shitty-gimbal LGB bombing (with either no defensive missiles, or only two bombs) in the MiG-27’s as a way to keep pace, to some degree with the orbital space bombardment that was/is meta in Top Tier GRB.
Without that, USSR doesn’t have good enough CAS to not be SPAA food, even if the Pantsir is better at AD against the enemy team.
Each candle represents a sacrifice given to the snail itself
The PGM is a stand off muntion though will the Brimstone accelerate off the rail fast enough to destroy the target before you are over the BF and then just dead?
When System Anti Air OTAN GAIJIN???
Thats my main worry, whats the point of brimstones if they would have just been better on a heli. Your gonna be well within the envelope of spaa while your still guiding in the brimstones.
I just cant see why it would be higher than 12.0. Tornado MFG/WTD61/A200 are 11.3, then I just cant think of why Aim-9M+HMD would push it higher than 12.0. Gunna be weaker than the Mirage F-1C at least for A2A combat, especially in Sim and thats only 11.7 in sim.
But unless yeah, they just want to screw over Britain
The SM3 for reasons that escape me is 12.3 despite being WORSE at air combat than the Su-25T at 11.7
Considering what I said about ASB, the lack of understanding of the contact’s identity radically increases the chance of a team kill.
Its bs that nato equipment has to be gimped when the kh38 is in the game.
You manage to get locks on vehicles with the PGMs at that range? My PGMs always refuse to lock at “safe” distances
the snail better be happy …
or else …
some garlic butter might get some extra use
Yes, and that would be fine. If all other nations got a decent equal to Pantsir at any point in the past 2 years.
Thats the thing you have to remember. ADATS can barely fight a switched on KA-52 with Vikhrs, let alone a Su-25T with KH-29s. Whilst thats not the case for all antion sure, China, France, Sweden even Germany could deal with Soviet CAS before. Israel, Britain, US, Japan Italy could not, not even close.
Now no one can. But the Pantsir is just as effective as it was before. Even aircraft like the F-16C and Gripen are no guarantees of victory
Your forgetting why the gr 1 is at 11.7 compared to the other tornados… its ground capabilities. I am fully aware it shouldnt but this is gaijin and they dont make educated decisions.
Tbh, I feel like adding the mmV Brimstones, if they really are as slow as Hellfires, probably isn’t too OP. They’d still struggle with the same issues that Kh-38’s do at range, and they’d still only be able to get into viewing range at roughly 18km as well.
It’s hard to explain how the Israelis have multiple Spike carrying helicopters with spam loads, and the Brits can’t even get 6x mmV Brimstones.