Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Not only that, but they had to nerf the R-73 too

Same, I replaced my Type 89 with the new RCV.
Would still like to somehow get the Type 96 missile system, so we can have some good high tier ATGMs, I just don’t know how good/bad they’d make it.

was inferior to the 16AJ on release and by the time it got buffed the 29G dropped and was better.

Reminder - 9Ls didnt suck at this point yet.

Now I know to take nothing you say seriously. Thank you.

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Germany should just get an Argentinian F-16. They already have Argentinian vehicles, no reason they can’t get one more to fill a gap.

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Germany should have gotten the Typhoon DA1.

said the dude who compared the ICE and F-15C?

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve locked up dudes at like 75km away or more (manual radar control BVR-ing like a try hard) only to have to keep locked until at least 35km, pray my missile does anything (almost never does), and then catch an AIM-120 a full 30 seconds after I locked said dude and I’m notching away.

It’s terribly frustrating. You really can’t BVR in the Su-27SM and it’s a shame.

Ironic that you call people out for using strawmen and then go ahead and use one yourself.

Wait wait wait what are you saying was worse then the AJ on release?

because we arent arguing anymore, you threw a jab at me and I just threw one back. nice try though.

The F-16C, which wasn’t.

No, too new of an airframe for the game as it is. It should be added along side comparable aircraft.

NO SHOT, the actual delusion is unreal in this one. Thats actually so funny thats made my day

It would only have IR missiles. The airframe is not nearly as good as people make it out to be.

The problem is not that htey get the most, the problem is they get SIGNIFICANTLY better aircraft WAY before everyone else and then maintain that gap for months and months and months, all while claiming that the equivalents would be too OP to come when they would have been approrpriate to add.

The better solution is this.

Add aircraft like the Typhoon sooner rather than later. and then spend the next year catching up and overtaking it. That way 5 nations arent left behind and the other 5 nations get a good stream of new additons.

The alternative is this

5 nations remain status quo for months maybe years (and so people stop playing them)

the other 5 nations get stronger and stronger and stronger

and then everyone is alllowed to catch up.

Nations with teh most options to be added, should be behind the tech curve for nations that have very few additions. Because the gaps wouldnt be so bad.


All im reading is this:

US must be the best nation in game, no other nation is allowed to be better. Under no circumstances can another nation be considered better by more than a tiny margin.

US must get an aircraft equal or superior to the Typhoon before the Typhoon is allowed to be added, even if that means 3 nations (and equivalent users) get nothing between now and then, despite the fact the US is superior currently to most them already and the gap will only increase in coming updates.

Just like F-16A vs Phantom FGR2/Viggen D or F-16C vs F3 /Viggen D

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He admits to using a strawman. What an interesting little fellow.

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And worse, when you close in to WVR range if you miss the R-73 opportunity you’ll lose, since you have pretty much the worse airframe at top tier, with only MiG-29SMT being outright worse.

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I’ve got one good turn, HMD, and an R-73. I usually get a second turn, just because most people aren’t very good at flying (I’m mediocre afaik, but good enough to know I have to sellout or die), and maybe one more R-73. By then I’ve usually taken a missile from someone else and am dead.

Because I have no decent ACQ, I have a very small window where I have an advantage with the ET’s and ER’s, the whole plane is a mess, but we call that a ‘rat’ in the industry apparently. ;)

AND!!! Because the R-73 seeker is still nerfed, it doesn’t have the same IRCCM lulz-tier ability that the 9M does, so it’s still a shit show even with the HMD.

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I like how over the years they mirage-ified lol