Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)


2 generations together

Only one nation, sad.

I prefer that:

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Thanks you 🙏 😊

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In regards to WT, F-18 flight performance would either be UFO-like, or it’ll be one turn and lose all your speed like current Flanker. Maybe Gaijin added JF-17 as a way to evaluate what hornet-like LERX would perform in the game engine.

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And it should have come first, I’ve never been a fan of Gaijin’s haphazard approach of adding planes with massive mismatches in capability, however there are sometimes gaps that can’t be mitigated (F-4F KWS).

i doubt it, such things are saved for december or june updates

BOL will likely come with them either giving the 15C more of its stuff or adding a newer version of the f15c

E might get BOL though, however afaik no new radar was mounted until like an apg 63v3 so i doubt thatll come

Yet, if we took this approach to every release, every specific plane-stan would lose their shit if it wasn’t blatantly OP.

For the record, I’d really like to clap everyone hard when the Su-30SM is released, but I don’t expect it to be a meta-dominating plane. All I can hope is that it’s a meta-balancing plane at this point.

Still praying to the Snail for that ICV man I was so angry the RCV was a squadron vehicle

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There was a way of lessening Germany’s gap. Add third gen Fox-3 carriers to all nations other than Japan, and then a few updates later release fourth/4.5th ones.

Is that you, Mihaly A. Shilage?

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That being said, if they had left aircraft like the Tornado F3 AOP, F4F-ICE, Sea Harrier FA2, etc etc etc ,the “lower” performance aircraft with the IRCCM missiles and just left the F-16C and F-15 with Aim-9L. They wouldnt be struggling anywhere near as much as they are now.

But no, US mains just had to get Aim-9M

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Or that…

(Some Generations here too :p)

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The issue is that bridge had already been crossed with Gaijin adding 4th gen’s that could carry FOX-3s several updates before, so they couldn’t even if they wanted to.

I know, I was giving a way that it could and should have happened.

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Mirage IV when?

dude I need you to seriously stop with the strawman arguments…

I’m gonna tackle this wall of text you dropped and if you haven’t learned anything from what I’m about to type. I’m just cutting this conversation here.

The gap between most 13.7s is not that big, the main losers being Britain, Russia, Israel due to the fact Derbys/Darters/R77s just suck. The M2K I struggle to place not because of how it compares to the F-15C, but because it’s just a wildcard plane.

the MICA within its range is the best Fox 3 in the game, but outside of its range is inferior to PL12s, AAM4s and AIM120s.

Actually before we continue reminder that the last few updates the best nation in air has been Japan, then before the F-15 got added it was Sweden and Britain with the Gripens… America wasn’t the No 1 nation since the Tomcat… They’ve been in the top 3 for sure, but No 1? not in a while.

“likely” this word you have used A LOT and it’s your biggest problem. Because it’s an assumption… Based off nothing. Britain is behind for 2 updates now (still fine overall just not meta), Germany is in the same boat most nations have been at before (they just gotta wait because they got nothing to fill the gap), Italy is doing just fine right now, and France is also doing fine. Russia is actually the worst nation in top tier Air at current and based off the leak list this is NOT changing this update.

The F/A-18C will not surpass the 15C at air superiority. The 10 AMRAAM slow missile bus will only work against bad pilots, and will lose to the Eagles. You may not want C&P (i understand why) but C&P aircraft that are still good and help your nation, is better than giving your nation a massive performance leap that breaks the game-

I don’t want this either, I also don’t want to go back to the 2022 days of there being 2 nations that are meta and the other 7/8 just suck in comparison due to the massive gap.

The best course of action knowing Gaijin as a business needs to make the F/A-18 be at least decent when its released (due to its infamy), is for it to release, the nations eligible for it to get it, then shortly after the EFT, Rafale, later Gripens get added.

There’s nothing wrong with wanting more unique vehicles, there is nothing wrong with being upset at C&P, but being closed minded and wanting to inflict a problem on someone else just because it was inflicted on you in the past (being left behind air power wise) is a stupid solution.

As for the “amount of aircraft added” problem. The U.S and Russia produced a lot of air craft… complaining they get planes frequently is pointless… they just have the most to add…

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Let’s just say there was some inspiration before I came back to War Thunder…

Ace Combat x War Thunder collab when

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F-16C.

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