Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

I’ve read better things on the F-16AM, specially with the bonus for the MAWS more usable than on other F-16s.

the F-16AM has a better FM than the Cs at the cost of
MAWS is only usable if you sacrifice 2 AIM-120s, and you dont get a radar HMD. Which are BIG advantages to lose out on.

Strange i remember reading than using the MAWS on the F16AM need less sacrifice than on the others but ok.

Su-33 is a redesignation of the Su-27K, the Su-27KUB is the twin seat (side-by-side) naval trainer that was developed for training pilots on carrier take-offs and landings.

The Soviets immediately saw value in a strike-bomber variant of the flanker with a cockpit arrangement similar to the Su-27KUB and it was initially designated the Su-32 before being slightly changed and renamed to the Su-34.

the MAWS is tied to the CM pods (which for some reason) cannot mount AIM-120s like it can IRL.

The Su-33UB is a trainer. Its weaponry is the same as that of the base Su-33.

So… You agree with me. Typhoon with certain limitaitons, could be added in December at the same BR as the F-15C MSIP II and it wouldnt totally and completely break the game like people usually claim whenever you mention adding the Typhoon.

Imagine EFT, F2 and F/A-18 December

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the Tranche 1 Block 5 (the first one I expect to see at this rate) would in the current game have the strongest Radar easily, as well as the best FM, on top of matching the F-15C in missile quality and only losing on missile Quantity…

While not struggling to reach meaningful BVR speeds like the F/A-18C and J-10A do. you heavily undersell this plane.

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To me, that would be a really good update.

F-18 (with Aim-120Cs) for Sweden and US
Typhoon (With Aim-120Bs) For Italy, Britain and Germany
Rafale for france
Thai Gripen C for Japan or maybe F-2?
etc etc

would be a really solid update

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No

Why no?

Few aircraft get added with their actual radars. The Gripen’s radar takes months and months to be added and no gurantee that AESA/PESA wont be added at the same time

Maybe, but strong enough BVR against it like the F-15C or F-18C would mitigate that. Dogfight vs BVR truck just like the F3 vs F-16/Mig-29 but now in reverse.

The F-2.

And the Rafale ofc:p

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Only problem is adding non european canard plane.

Because the update would not be named “European Canards”’ in that case :p


Also i wonder if we gonna start with all 3 main member of the Rafale family or just one.

Yeah, I forgot about the F-2, Though the Thai Gripen might be a good addition for them anyway

Atp id take either or tbh id prefer the F2 but id take a Gripen

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F18c isn’t really comparable to Rafales and eurofighters. Super hornet is more comparable to those

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