Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Depend of the tranche i guess.

Like the full first Rafale variant can be 12.3 right now, but the last modern one could need 15.0 ? xD

Yep, and considering its got 320 BOL and 32 Large calibre flares. Its gunna suck to defend against any IR or BVR missile in.

The teasers sometimes release a within a few hours of that, so you may just catch it.

reminder - The current 3rd best jet (2nd best if you count all 3 F-15s as C&P) CANNOT DO BVR and is only the 2nd best due to its FM

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Perhaps for making it easier in the game it’s gonna be the case and don’t change a lot of things ?

DA / Tranche 1 block 5 is my guess for a 14.0 max Typhoon. With that being said, stuff like the F-15C likely need to move up to 14.0 with it

Wich are the 3rd best jet ?

Worse comes to worse I’ll watch it on break/in the walk in ig. I just won’t get the chance to go through it frame by frame lmao.

J-10A is the current 3rd best jet in the game
(assuming the F-15JM is the best, followed by the Baz M and 15C)

Oh so EF gonna have a starter higher than the early rafale.

If that happen i guess Gaijin gonna jump over a bunch of first rafale variants and start immediatly somewhere in the middle.

I’d doubt the rafale would be that low, even the first, though I know they had shockingly bad radars for a while

as it stands the 15C and J-10A are gonna be constantly going up as they get “buffed” while they add new things. Given both planes HEAVILY outperform the other 13.7s, and have potential for greater weapons.

13.7 has huge performance gaps between the best and worst planes.

Depend of wich variants, but if we take really early-early variants (not services one but proto/testbad/all of that) it’s a mix of MICA and magic 2, so not better that we have in the game already.

Good part if you start with an “advanced” EFT then we could miss all thoses starters perhaps :p

Oooor Gaijin gonna put thoses starter at modernized EFT variant BR and call it a day…

Though you would still place the F-15s above the J-10, Gripen and F-16, aircraft that are superior to the F-15 in WVR combat.

Su-27SM would likely join it if R-77s werent inferior to the AMRAAM

Well, the 829A1 has about 18mm more penetration than the 3BM60, the numbers I heard had it at more like ~620mm of pen, so all I can think of otherwise is the pen vs. slope that is supposedly better on the 3BM59 as it is a DU penetrator. I’d gladly take a 829A1-esque dart for the 2A46M guns that has better penetration values vs more intense angles, even if it only gives a few more pen v. flat.

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dude you could give the 27SM R-77-1s and it’d still be the 2nd worst 13.7 in the game.

its radar is awful and it flies like a brick

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All I know is that I expect the december update to be another dissapointing one for top tier ground players.

I hope for the opposite, but expect dissapointment.

I doubt it. 12x AAMs is OP. Assuming R-77-1 are equal to Aim-120Bs (though heard more like Aim-120Cs) then it can spam off just as many missiles as the F-15C and then fight with R-73s + HMD which is a powerful combo.

It has a weak radar, but mostly due to a bug, fix that, and its perfectly usable.

Even if some top tier are in needs, i do hope more cold war stuff, hundreds of really interesting stuff to add there (~6.0/9.0)

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you doubt incorrectly. It can’t “spam” anything with only 2 DL channels

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