Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

When did we get Arena APS? Lmao

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Well im more so reffering to the Russian magic armor and survivability

The difference is that the Typhoon was developed by four nations, however the Leopard 2A5 and 6 were done so by only one.

Cool. I also basically play nothing else than SIM since the start of this year. ARB just ain´t it anymore. I actually came here right after finishing tonight´s F-15C/F-16C SB EC with a W.

You guys have APS ?

Sad galix smoke launcher noises

Every modern French vehicle use Galix launcher, that have “chaff” inclued for atgm/laser protection.

We saddly don’t use hard APS so i really hope they gonna work on GALIX soon.

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Sad SEP V2 noises

4.5* :p

Relikt is really good ERA, the best majorly manufactured ERA in the world right now.

Hell, Kontak-1 is doing overtime on Abrams and Leo’s right now in that conflict we can’t talk about right now.

France dropped out, so it doesn’t count.

Hey now not throwing FY5 in that mix is disrespectful :p

True but all if this “Because it’s made by X nations therefore it goes in X nation” is kinda flawed.

I mean where are the nations that aren’t in game yet meant to go. By that logic we should remove the Argentina stuff since Germany never used it ?

Hence the 0.5

Meanwhile AZUR kit should be NERA, not ERA, and it should be able to be put on every Leclercs except the S1, but you know Gaijin… x)

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And TUSK and the Brit ERA should also be better

I’m not seeing this “chaff” in the GALIX ammunition listed by Lacroix Defense
laser defense is just the normal stuff you get when you use multispectral smoke

I don’t want to ruin the uniqueness of nation that are ingame for the pleasure of nation that are not ingame.

They are not ingame ? Then sorry but too bad for them.

For the TAMs, German codeveloped the first one, and all are based on the Marder chassis. For the SK-105A2, I agree that that shouldn’t have gone to Germany.

Technically it was 3 because the Netherlands and Switzerland were involved in the KWS 2 :p

I mean FY-5 is manufactured on large scale, but Relikt and Kontakt-1 are both being mass produced for replacement tiles on Russian combat vehicles, FY-5 is gathering dust in Chinese depots.

Isn’t the first gen on AZUR ERA?

Also TUSK is accurately modelled currently.

I’ll get picked on for saying this, but most protection kits for Western tanks have minimal kinetic protection. BRAT and BRAT-II have done well I will say.

Conveniently ignoring that Britains top tier aircraft for 4 years was the Phantom FGR2, with no new aircraft at all, only incremental upgrades that barely keep it in the fight and today is massively over BRed to the point its basically unplayable

Britain didn’t, we got the Tornado F3 in the same update Germany got the Mig-29. With a radar so broken that Skyflash STs just randomly exploded for no reason, so Britain didnt even get a good counter to the Mig-23MLA let alone something that MIGHT have a chance at fighting a mig-29 until 3 months AFTER germany got the Mig-29 when the F3 finally got a fixed radar in the June update,

Tornado Gr1 has weaker engines and a gen 1 tpod. it is overall the weakest tornado IDS in game at the moment. The PGMs are barely an advantage in GRB and with the recent BR changes, pointless to even take, Id personally take a gen 2 tpod over the PGMs anyway. But in GRB, Germany has a MASSIVE advantage in the form of the Leopard 2A7V, which should be a BR higher than the Chally 2. Even in SPAA Germany is far superior to Britian.

As for air… The weaker engines mean you are much slower, the slightly better bombs mitigates this partially but barely and only out-bound. We also dont have 2x Tornado IDS at 11.3. Which is a massive buff personally. As for Sim… The fact the Mig-23MLA is 11.3 but the Tornado Gr1 is 11.7 speaks volumes, the current situation in Sim means im usually playing hte Gr1 in the 12.0 bracket because then I might actually make it to a base without being shot down by a Mig-23. Germany can bomb all day long with virutal impunity in 11.3 and 11.7 matches.

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Ingame AZUR is ERA, but it should be NERA.

Same problem with French ERA like on the Brennus, it wistand like 5mm for KE, when it should be around 100mm if Gaijin really worked on them. (immune to 20 or 30mm too)