Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

It is the same problem. Both nations needed/need fillers. Im not against Japan F16Aj. I just dont like the hate towards the idea of Germany getting something they dont use.(AKA Swiss F-18 or F16 from somewhere).

So if people says Germany need to wait but F16Aj was needed, this is double standards.

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Theres literally no hate about Germany getting Swiss filler lmao but all the hate about the AJ

The only thing that was said is that France should get the joint Swiss project vehicles

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Because gaijin not ready 4.5 gen fighter aircraft with modern AESA radar 3 years

Maybe 2030

PESA and early AESA radars are coming sooner than later whether the community wants it or not. Gaijin has a plan to push

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Funnily enough Barhams SAP is SAPCBC however her AP shell is literally just APHE with no ballistic cap, not sure why iirc she can also get an APCBC shell in that years configuration.

But this is a lot of filler per volume for an APC shell, it has nowhere near equivalent filler for a SAP shell. But it has ~20kg of filler which is about average for an APC shell around the same as Hood’s 15" shell. Though i’m not sure what the equivalent is in TNT as it uses some weird post-war French compound i’ve never seen before and noone else used so it’s not in-game yet.

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Fifth gens will be coming by the end of 2025 mark my words.

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mark my word , 2050 we still dont have are AMX-13-100 (dutch) , even tho wee have them as a sub now

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Well, she’s gonna meet class of ships that are way modern against what she was build for so… xD
A little tast of DoA as usual, we know that taste very well.

Perhaps this would help for fire in ammo storage too, a little like for modern tank armor between crew and ammo (forgot the word). Sure it’s not an invicible wall but i hope this could still bring something.

In BBs perhaps, but in cruiser, we have cold war one that could go perfectly in between as help, like the Dakka colbert.


And good news if Gaijin give her really good shells to balance the light armor (and potential slow reload, i’m scared about that), more pen and more spicy than scharnorst shells is cool.

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Well that is what she was designed to protect against :p

Japan got the AJ because they’d have had NOTHING until the F-15 got added, and they were already lagging behind other nations (USSR and Germany had MiG-23s, American tomcat, Sweden Vigen, China J7E) while Germany was always going to get their MiG-29s

What you are saying is the same as saying USA should’ve gotten the F-16 while the MiG-21bis was being added.
We’ve had the AJ discussion so many times now, how are people this ignorant?

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This, like boo hoo Germany doesn’t have a dogfighter

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Isn’t mig29G technically a dogfighter

Gonna make me cry bro…

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Nothing we aren’t familiar with yeah. Still I have high hopes for her, Dunkerque class is literally the Tiger 1 of capital ships, but this time hopefully with smart players who know how to use her.

I think you mean like a blowout panel. And yeah in theory it should do, big shells and possibly the overperforming Russian 12" may not care about the bulkhead. But on smaller shells it should leave half the turret as funcitonal. And stop fire damage from going between the two.

One thing I don’t believe is currently modelled in-game is flash-tightness which on many ships stops the case of fires burning down the barbette causing damage.

I agree, I look forward to seeing more french ships in general to be honest, I find the unorthadox designs interesting. And also Italian ships which are heavily underrated.

They only ever used 2 different shells, a HE shell and an APC shell. The APC is very good for its size so in this case you get what you’re given which is very good.

We will have to wait and see what they do with the reload. But you know what, if Scharn, Kron, Amagi, Mutsu and Bayerns can have their peak reloads (in Kron’s case completely untested) then Dunkerque should get her optimal reload also.

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And saddly gaijin confirmed than a subTT vehicles can’t go elsewhere than the country linked with.
It’s probably the worst choice from them about subTT idea, and the reason i just hope thoses Swiss-French project never come in the game now, even if it’s sad to say something like that.

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You dont know how many people I know who haven’t played this game for mOnths even almost years becasue they still wait for the EF.

When can we expect the trailer ?

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True, I thought the SAP on Scharn might have much higher penetration than on the Deutschlands but it doesn’t so yeah it should be proof against scharnhorst shells hitting one side, though as we know scharnhorst has 9 guns with incredible dispersion (incredibly artificial dispersion that is).

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yes germany needed it, we have another tank with a weird name, same turret as df105. but its slow

Speaking of compound, MICAs missiles should have a purple fire, come on Gaijin it’s beautiful ! xD

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Well not me, i’m still noob in navy and i have work to do to reach the Dunkerque :p

Yeah… The “planned shell of the kondcrat” that was made perfect by Gaijin ? xD