They have 2 MiG-29s.
We would have been fighting BVR and IRCCM with no IRCCM. In a Phantom.
The ICE at least has BVRAAMs and IRCCM.
They refuse to give the EJ Kai AAM-3 now do you think they wouldve done it then? I doubt it
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so because of the oh so famous Polish-German relations, Poland should go to Germany as a subtree?
To keep it very vague: due to direct action from German funds and associations, a great tragedy has struck Poland which could’ve been made lesser if not for that action taken. And I will leave it at that as it’s off topic.
And it makes no sense for Poland to go to Germany anyway. We don’t have any German equipment besides Leopard 2s, nor are we procuring German equipment. Also it would be combining allied and axis equipment in a single nation that’s already strong in lower tiers, which I’m fairly certain wouldn’t sit right with most of the community
And if you really think Poland should go to Germany only because of that why don’t you argue for other nations to be added to Germany?
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F-4EJ Kai has no options for Fox 3 missiles, unlike ICE.
Devil’s advocate, do you think if they decided the AJ was a no-go that maybe that would’ve been their backup plan?
I love when lies are screened.
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I doubt it, thats the first time for top tier Japan Gaijin had made an exception like that
Well, as the forum pointed out earlier, the XF-2 (prototype F-2) could’ve been an addition instead of the AJ.
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The same way Japan havr a fillergap (F16AJ) to get to F15, Germany needs one to get to typhoon. Why people dont want anything added to Germany?
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Thats a completely different comparison.
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It’s supposed to be good to get copypaste and stuff you do not want ? the f16 fill no better role than the mirage except in air with how lacking the mica em is in terms of energy is and instead of those leo we could have some leclerc that actually have no armor this time at a lower br.
Nobody playing France want those f16 or leo because they only feel like an insult, the f16 is barely unique to make sense to be added there.
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Or one of the many Asean F-16’s
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Or the Thai F5TH since they seemed to be planning on adding Thailand
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Ah yes. Double standards when Germany is involved. I bet people think germany should be stuck in the Leo2a4 and f4F early
Can we please stop assuming that the same development time and resources that are/wete being put in the Dutch Leopards would be put into other French vehicles?
If the Dutch Leopards wouldn’t be coming, the dev time and resources would likely just be put into the next vehicle on the planning list, no matter which nation.
Well actually it’s Gaijin fault, MICA have too much drags (and not enough acceleration if i remember).
Alongside they are far from the supposed 80km of range they have IRL.
I still didn’t reach the M2K, but yeah no way i grind/play F16s over the 2000s, if i want to play F16s i would have grinded USA. That’s the problem with subTT and lack of originality at the end.
if at least they would have given the magics 2 loadout to one of the F-16s (don’t remember wich one), at least this would give some originality, even if really low one.
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I mean that they will just fill the spot and it make no incentive for gaijin to actually see for them and fix the numerous issues with the french tt.
Germany literally only has problems NOW not when Gen 4s were being introduced you cannot compare these situations I never said Germany shouldnt get something for filler just stated Japan wouldve fallen behind significantly, Germany at LEAST has the weapons to keep up we didnt even have that
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In this case its the armour, its a very thinly armoured ship reliant on angling, however I am worried some shells may just ignore the angling to some degree. Still I think against other ships, she will be better than Renown due to better shell dispersion, equivalent RoF, armour and speed.
VS smaller 11"shells from scharnhorst it might be effective, i doubt anything more than that though.
I think both sisters will be put at 7.0 or 6.7 as both have weak armour unangled, Stras just is slightly less weak. The issue we have is there is nothing to bridge the gap between the relatively ‘okay’ Dunkerques and the relatively good Richelieu’s.
Reload is anywhere between 45 seconds and 30 seconds, it was very very iffy and flawed irl. Penetration should be good though, better than Scharnhorst and the shell had so much HE filler for its calibre it was arguably a SAP round, so it won’t suffer with low HE filler like other small calibre guns.
You will have to be careful to not show too much of the bulkhead or the belt, too much of either and shells will easily go right through.
Just the Deutschland class, originally it was just supposed to counter heavy cruisers, then those popped up so it was made bigger to counter Deutschland’s, that’s why its protected against low weight 11" shells, then Scharnhorst, Bismarck and the Littorio’s popped up, which prompted the Richelieu’s.
Dunkerque is better. The design of the Dunkerque and Richelieu classes is copied and then modified from the British Nelson classes, this can be seen not only in the placement of the guns which you could argue is not copying but also the shape of the citadel is also inspired by the Nelson class, this isn’t a bad thing, but just some historical context. However a carryover from this is the better ammunition placement.
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Yeah i forgot to put that in my comment, mirage should be able to both have a really good fox 3 at short and medium range for sure not as fast as aim 120 but it would make it possible to launch them from far away.
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Barham part 2 with a BC shell? Sign me up
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