Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

su-34 is faster, better, has a great radar, also is able to carry r-77

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Only bad part will be it will probably fall out of the sky when turning, if Gaijin bases it on current Su-27 flight model and add even more weight.

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they arent giving it kh38s

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and more drag for that big head, it really will fall out of the sky when turning

Solution is simple, don’t turn

It is modeled at a rudimentary level IIRC. As @CREELAST mentioned the size of the signature usually correlating with size of aircraft.

Also

Pretty sure it is resistant to IR missiles in the sense that you can’t detect it until real close due to the way the engines dissipate heat. Meaning radar still has the longest range outside of optical seekers like on the Type 81 and Strela.

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Because Germany has fuck all to add last I checked until we get into a truly new br/tier (not decompressing existing brs)

Poland is probably going to be its own tree with an Eastern European subtree. Besides, I’d rather they get some Argentine mirages instead, assuming some are suitable.

test flight it till you know how to fly with it

who knows

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those with common sense

With what targeting pod? Oh wait… there is none.
AGMs are only as powerful as their optics, and without a targeting pod weapon systems are far less effective.
Su-25SM3 will fire KH-38s from 20km in safety with ease, while Su-34 doesn’t have that targeting pod privilege.

@artan24
Well, I hope one day you learn to use the Mig-27 and Su-25.
It’s not hard. One day you might be as skilled as Hunter with CAS.

Mig-29SMT is faster than Su-34 while also having R-77s and targeting pod support that Gaijin hasn’t given it yet.

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no, poland better be a sub for germnay

F-117 I think has at least some treatment for lowering IR signature, just look at the engine nozzles.

at leats its not a supersonic jet lol

It is, so ot would be limited to 4 missiles and no radar. It would still be a longer range SAM than the Type 11, the most advances SAM Japan could get in their own.

I’d argue the point of subtrees is to fill these BRs as well. Subtrees are meant to equal out the capability and potential gaps of nations. If there is still such blatant BR gaps then they don’t function properly.

Though Tunguska might be a bad choice considering Myanmar is a country that is actually closer to China and would be better in their tree.

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Well yeah on the deck it’ll be especially slow and vulnerable, and no way to defend itself from air threats.

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Definitely won’t be.

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Stealth doesn’t mean that radar cannot see you at all, but it means is that it is harder to track for radar + weapons.

Why wouldn’t they? Iirc the initial variant was capable of such weaponry.

With what targeting pod? Oh wait… there is none.

ummm there is, I’m sure it not worse than MiG-27K/Su-24M

Spoiler


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