Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

I forgot this, I’m thinking about modern Iran. though NK is still not quite a Chinese vehicles user, only some J5 jets as I remember, it got things direct from USSR. But it’s still considered as potential best Chinese sub for many reasons, still, the result of a separated Korea should be considered

not translation. but I think still my fault, I should use more quote

Well, now you’re all satisfied. The Chinese faction lost Singapore and will continue to be a place where no one cares, haha, more people want Singapore to go to Japan TT - how many Singaporeans are there? And how many Japan faction players are there?

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Is the Singapore to China thing even real from the beginning? The Chinese leaker seem to imply he have not heard anyting about it.

The leaklist that said that also included several things that have been proven to be wrong.

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The leaklist in question.

Whilst some items seem reasonable, they could also be easily guessed based upon assumptions/recent datamines.

I think its unlikely imo. Though also could go either way, Gaijin seems very… Random… With Sub-TT placements these days

maybe a misinterpreted rumor. here is my imagination:
Gaijin is studying a Chinese sub, choosing a region, they listed possible regions, including Singapore, which do have many Chinese culture influence. Somebody heard this, then leak to the leaker, not sure how many intermediaries it through, and finally it’s misinterpreted.

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I know a lot of people will say, “Ah, there’s a better option for China, like Pakistan or North Korea.” But all the weapons and equipment information of North Korea is unknown, and if there really is a North Korean subline, then we have to accept a completely fictitious vehicle by Gaijin? Pakistan cannot form a subline on its own, and some of its vehicles are also modified Chinese weapons and equipment - this makes no sense. Why can other countries get a sub-tree that has little connection to their country, but not the Chinese faction? Do the three Low Countries of France or Hungary of Italy have anything to do with them?

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I would not be surprised, a lot of the items on that list seemed more like over-heard concepts rather than actual plans

Yes the leak for vehicle to come next update is usually quite accurate, but I found leak for longer term seems to be more dubious.

By definition defining a band for the radar means it’s not AESA, but PESA, btw. Used in marketing it’s likely either a misnomer or translation errors.

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Chinese TT still has enough choices to fill the TT, ITA don’t.
Add a L2A4 is meaningless

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F/A-18E Blk 1 standard coming to 2026 or 2027 for USA tech tree to USN fighter line. my guess

That is the other thing that makes me question this leak

Does China even need a Sub-TT? Especially over Japan or Israel

Between China and Taiwan + export variants, they have quite a roster to call upon.

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I doubt if it will come so quickly. I think it should be a forerunner of next gen jets, a test, should not be earlier than next top jet major update
and some of the Chinese leaker’s vehicles often get delayed

So three Leopard 2s in France are good? Is that right? Everyone said to China “No, you are not allowed to take even a leopard” but to France “Here you are, your three leopards”. France also has no shortage of tanks that can be launched. China can have a lot of its own vehicles, but do you think Gaijin will give them all to the Chinese faction?

Italy was one of the main suppliers during interwar period for Hungary, they both supported German invasion against USSR. There are also Hungarian vehicles based on/modified from Italian ones (Heja, Heja 2, CR.32bis and CR.42 with Gebauer mgs, L3s). They are both in NATO, regularly participating in joint trainings. The same can be said about Romania.
So there is indeed some connection.

I think a lot of people, France included are unhappy with BeNeLux.(Or at least the vehicle choice)

Likewise Britain with India.

To use one bad sub-tt as justification for another, doesn’t really work

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Also, Italy is somewhat officially the home of “minor axis nations”

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Well, both China and Singapore fought together against Japan fascism in World War II. Singaporeans contributed to China’s war of resistance 80 years ago, and their ancestors fought with us 80 years ago. To this day, Singapore has a Memorial Hall of the Victory of Resistance Against Japan.

why not, it’s a lazy and irresponsible behavior of adding meaningless C&P and shouldn’t be encouraged.