Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Yesss my Gripen will finally look complete with that EW pod

I mean if we’re talking shades of EFT, don’t be surprised if Gaijin does something silly like merging tranches and maybe even adding some less-than-historical-but-technically-possible CAS abilities to paper-over some needs.

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Realistically there´s nothing except the EF Typhoon which is not coming this year and as you can see this community is hellbent on cockblocking subtrees for Germany. So nothing.

All we have is hope that Gaijin won´t listen to the local circlejerk community and instead have the balls to add the Swiss Hornet.

Though personally I would prefer if they removed Netherlands from FRA, gave it to GER and instead gave Switzerland to FRA. That is obviously not happening. I´d only suggest to do what I do in the meantime. Play the F-15C or F-16C until Germany finally gets something next year.

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Doctrine wise, the only real differences is that the F15 doesn’t require as much escorting/babysitting as the F-111.

The 15E and B1 took over the roles of the F111.

E-MBT (the 2018 version) uses the PSO-VT/2A7+ hull. EMBT looks like a modified 2A7V.

Thatd be best case.

Oh i can totally see them doing that for our Eurocanards, it’s already what they have done with the Mirage 2000-5F that is more a 2000-9 than anything else (hope this keep a place for a future Mirage 2000-9 as a premium once we reach that area)

EFT Tranches and Rafales (on the 3 family) variants probably gonna be butchered a lot xD

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Oh its gonna be bad Gunjob is gonna have a hell of a time

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The thing is, afaik, there is one EFT, with different Tranches.

We have 3 differents Rafale, with each their upgrades.

Gonna be rock & roll xD

( I REALLY hope we gonna have our 3 lines of Rafale)

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Riiiiight, i forgot about the XLR, the one that would bring NOTHING in terms of in-game differences except perhaps the removal of the hull ammo-rack

You don’t seem to understand than even if a Leclerc variants is really close to another, it’s still another vehicle to bring in a lineup, still more choices and impact on the game.

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Those would then be the only straight upgrade for France with a vehicle vaguely related to the Leclerc, massive hull armor upgrade in exchange for Leopard 2 mobility

Its too bad the Leclerc lost its unique 5 sec reload

I’m not trying to split hairs either, but they had plenty of options to give us the Su-27 with R-77’s and not add the SM (not that I’m complaining). From an aesthetic view, it would’ve been nice to get a slower progression, and then make the SM a premium/squadron. Instead it has the 2nd best Kh missiles available, and a fair amount of pylons for other items as well… all at the expense of being absolutely maxed in BR for GRB (as it should). Point is, Gaijin tends to simplify on some level instead of building things up in layers, which admittedly is a balancing act, no one wants 4 planes in one folder with fundamentally nearly the same abilities.

I think P/AESA is going to be more like greater situational awareness so people are less caught unawares.

Going to be harder to sneak up on people.

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You only play UK though, perhaps your perspective might be skewed? UK has multiple subtrees and Gripens which they never even operated yet somehow they got there anyway. Double standard? Better Tornadoes. Better Mig 21. Better Phantoms except now when Phantoms became irrelevant. Better top tier (Gripen). Better CAS. Better bombers. I honestly don´t see your point, sorry.

Wrong comparison. Germany got the Mig-23 a year after every other Mig-23 operator and only in the form of an event vehicle. MLA came even later.

Conveniently obfuscating the fact that the German Phantom also came a year after every other nation got theirs, including UK, and also only in the form of a coupon.

Conveniently obfuscating the fact that Mig-29A came 4 months after Russia got theirs first and after all the other nations got their F-16´s.

Conveniently obfuscating the fact that all the UK Tornadoes are better than the German one.

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I have earsay that it can go lower, around 4s, but it can have mechanical error, but Panther and Tiger don’t have engine taking fire so… :p

It’s ok, if at least they work on all the other lacking things (armor, mobility, more shells…)

I don’t get the point of an Su-27 for UK.

Didn’t you guys don’t like when we say you want the world? xD

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There’s the Leclerc Evolution, which has an APS and a nice 30mm

Not trying to rip on Morv, but he also only plays sim. The fun of this game is we all carry different perspectives, and everyone should branch out.

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Also as the ultimate (beauty) end of the TT, but mathias gonna say it’s only a proto we know nothing so this don’t count for him.

But i don’t care, i want them :p

They also have loitering ammunition btw, drones launcher behind the commander MG:

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