Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

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No teaser?

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Strasbourg as premium would be against their rules of “premium not better than TT variant”.

And they never do dual standard, isnt it…?

Honestly both in the TT is the best bet.
If i had to chose i would have said Dunkerque as a premium, and Strasbourg in the TT, but it’s too late now.

But we had a 3rd ship from this class taht we started to build no? Or i mixup with a 3rd Richelieu.

yes, gaijin is right about this, in battle rate 7.0 germany doesnt have a good tank

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when i was playing df105, japz k a2 battle rate was 8.0 i think or even 7.7

but they are right, in battle rate 7.0 german only has a poor m48

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You’re not comprehending the scale of how much Japan would’ve had to wait for any top tier jet, while Germany is getting them.

Germany got the ICE last patch, which has both ARH and IRCCM missiles, in Kings of Battle they got the 29G which carries both IRCCM missiles and at the time strongest radar missile in the game while still wielding great maneuverability, and in Sky Guardians they got the 29A, which was the 2nd best performing jet and had the best radar missile in the game.

Meanwhile Japan got the EJ kai in Direct Hit, maybe but probably not gotten the AAM-3 two years later, and then the F-15J two and some years later.
And let me add that not even a year after it’s addition nearly every nation had something that far surpassed it.
Do you see why you saying it’s double standards is ridiculous?

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yeah but it’s not the best so he doesn’t acknowledge it apparently,
the only thing Germany lacks RN is a good multirole fighter and a good dogfighter with ARH missiles

Germany doesnt deserve Poland let me put it that way. They can get Swiss F/A-18C as a filler but only when other operators get it too.

In this update you wont be falling behind in A2A department despite additions such as F-15E, Su-34 or Mirage 2000D RMV as these vehicles bring nothing new into air combat. In fact they’re taking away from it more than anything.

You can easily wait thru this patch without suffering from lack of 4th gen FOX3 carrier.

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By the time you get to Dunkerque it shouldn’t be an issue, particularly after playing Bretagne.

Yes that one.

Yeah I haven’t got much confidence in that. They could also add the Normandie class but I don’t like them. Ideally Dunk and Stras for TT along with a Normandie and a Lyon and then another Normandie for premium.

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If i’m not dead inside to play something harder and meeting ships that can vaporise just from looking at me, and all i can do is remove their paint xD

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I agree but both for TT is best.

You are confusing it with the third Richelieu class ship Clemenceau

But that’s good news for that BR for France as the Richelieu’s are relatively powerful though only Richelieu herself has a good reload. But still that’s a full lineup of 3 ships.

I am still crossing my fingers that Gaijin will allow Alsace as she is a gorgeous ship and Littorio UP.41, then France and Italy get good Iowa-level ships.

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Yes that one, nvm.

Can’t wait for Richelieu, i hope it don’t come AFTER the other big boy (even if Richelieu herself have the best reload, i want the Jean Bart with post WW2 refit to make a no fly zone on some km xD).

Actually since we are far behind would be nice to have them first, like the Scharnorst is meta since years :p

Would be nice if they allow Alsace but i doubt this happen, they need to change their rules for that :/

Ignore me, I thought Jean Bart was sunk at Mers-El-Kabir, I forgot it was Richelieu at not even Mers but Dakar, and that she was just disabled. Basically after the Richelieu went to America, the Brits and American’s funded for them to have a refit which amongst other things, gave them good loading mechanisms so they could fire at up to 2RPM.

Its only Clemenceau which would have an RoF of up to 1.4RPM but there is an argument that had she had been finished she would also have been modified to fire at at least up to 32 second reload.

They said prior they would consider ‘completed designs’ so whilst I can’t suggest her, I can still hope she is added, she basically keeps Richelieu’s good side armour (due to it’s angling), and adds an extra quad to the rear, clearly a very powerful ship.

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Richelieu got indeed a cool US refit with a lot (30ish something like that, if not 40s, can’t remember) of 20mm and 14x quad 40mm bofors


But i’m talking about the Jean bart post WW2 when i talk about making a no flight zone on the map


9x 152mm + 24x100mm + 28x 57mm, all radar assisted and with proxy fuzes, it’s a glorious no flight zone :p

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F-111 is a multirole aircraft though, and even if it wasn’t, that doesn’t stop the F-15E from being it’s replacement. It’s a sidegrade to the F-15C as opposed to being a direct upgrade, so it makes the most sense to place it at the end of the bomber line. The whole point of the strike eagle is to be an F-15 with CAS capabilities, it doesn’t make much sense to be after the F-15C.

Please tell me it could actually fire that missile. I want to see funni biplanes launching missiles in air RB.

If France had these I would actually try French coastal. I love derpy vehicles, especially when they can be effective.

Leaks have been right on the money so far, I’d actually be surprised if we don’t get it at this point.

Leak lists aren’t the full list of vehicles being added, and given Gaijin’s trackrecord, i’d expect at least some copy paste vehicles from at least the midtiers.

Poland has enough vehicles to be it’s own tree, and even if it HAD to be a subtree, Britain would make more sense to host it, seeing as how they played host to the Polish government while it was in exile.

Because Germany has better options for subtrees, such as Argentina.

Yeah, that just doesn’t make sense. So far India has been only even/premium vehicles (and the squadron T-80) and that has been considered a British subtree, yet Argentina, who has a number of vehicles IN THE RESEARCHABLE TECH TREE isn’t considered a German subtree.

Because Germany isn’t in as bad as a situation as Japan was when they added in the F-16J, which was added because Japan needed some form of top tier CAS. Germany has MiG 29s and the F-4 ICE for air superiority, and the Tornado for CAS. Are they in a good situation? No, but nowhere near as bad as Japan.

Besides, it would be better to just give Germany Argentina as a subtree. They have plenty of their vehicles as it is, and it would be better to give them Argentinian operated F-16s then it would be to give them something they didn’t have.

Seeing as how it looks like Japan is getting a Thai tree, it would’ve been better, in retrospective, to give them a Thai F-16.

The only resources those Leos are getting is for a new camo. The bigger issue with the BeNeLux subtree is that it takes up a line that could’ve been a line of French vehicles, even if it would’ve taken longer for a fifth line to arrive.

Same reason why GB mains didn’t want SA at the time, it took up a line that could’ve been British vehicles, though SA had 0 copy-paste vehicles from what I recall, so they had more of a point there.

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Exactly why I want USS North Carolina

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