Main problem is still the Pantsir-issue

It’s very easy: No equivalent system? DO NOT ADD

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Prob exact reason of not adding full-working brimstones

We are starting from the fact that it has already been added. Of course, no one will delete Pantsir, so offer solutions that will not touch it

why not? The Maus got removed too

What is wrong with you?

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I can understand the kh38 argument.

However, i do not see the grom being an issue in ground rb. Gps bombs are just not able to do much in the gamemode.

Add an easy fix to nato nations.

At top tier for example(all I play), a well reduced loadout of 2 aim120 and 2 aim9m for a spawn cost of 300sp.

My f15c spawning with a full A2A loadout costs barely any different from bringing some ground attack munitions with it. A- I am bad at CAS(not much better at CAP lol), but even if I wasn’t I still never bring it. I prefer planes for air and tanks for ground. I’m not a fan of CAS so I refuse to add to it. Same reason I don’t play helis, at all.

This would give us better options to fight CAS. Remedy the issue of CAS being able to engage the way they do, and the massive drop in capabilities between pantsir and all the rest.

Pantsirs are the STRV’s and Leo2a7’s of AA.

CAS is still better, but it starts putting things to parity.
In this example Russia could still have the same option, but it would cost more. Like 500, to our 300 or 350. Since they have the most viable AA in the game, but wouldn’t pigeonhole them into only using ground while we have air to deal with air.

It would also remedy the doctrinal differences between NATO and others and why we don’t have these assets like Russia and China do.

It is not NATO fault that Gaijin dod not include all the tool available to deal with S1.
Heck NATO aircraft can’t even detect S1 radar which is laughable and probably biggest advantage of the S1 atm.

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Lol true but its not like the 2S6 was bad. And the Tor would’ve done exactly what they wanted anyway

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Larger maps with more players and organized missions. A few dedicated SPAA, some dedicated ground pounders, some dedicated SEAD, lots of tanks, etc, like DCS but war thunder

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It’d be epic if Gaijin just removed the damn thing but hell would sooner freeze over before they do such a thing.

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Add other comparable SPAA, don’t remove the only decent one.

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Which Gaijin has failed to do, so removing it is the more sensible option since parity is something Gaijin acts like it’s absolutely allergic to.

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The fact remains Russia or the game didnt need Pantsir. No one was suffering or dominating to a point Pantsir was a necessary counter.

have you looked at Tac view with a Pantsir Radar and compared it to every other nations top tier SAM?
It has an AESA Radar (well its certainly acting like that) You cannot hide from it in any form. as soon as you could be theoretically detected it has detected you and calculated a firing solution.

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Nerf the Radar (it may not be realistic but that AESA type Radar it uses) puts it at a massive advantage
only allow it to guide a single missile like every other Sam in game.

Iirc the Tor M1 can also multi-fire, so that kind of nerf would also have to apply to the Tor.

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I would say that TOR is perfectly balanced, it’s annoying to deal with at some distances, as it should be.
Be realistic, they won’t remove pantsir, or nerf it. You ask why? I can’t come up with explanation that wouldn’t get my post removed/flagged etc, but I’ll try. ru community of WT is pretty… Well, it’s a mess, to say the least, gaijin would get their rear eaten alive if they would do something like that because guess what ru community that is used to being handheld for years would say? You’re right, they would call you all cry boys and tell that gaijin is there exclusively for money, or something like that. They put themselves in a trap where there’s practically no way out, so the only way they can go is to make those who are used to cope - cope a bit more, and those are you all and me as well. Unfortunatelly that’s how it was, how it is and how it will be, unless something unforseen happens. We can make a small “book of cope without a hope” containing all the suffering gajomb put all of us through for the sake of soviet mains not being upset too much.

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Just reviving this here to say that on Red flag nations have decent AAs.

If the problem is that the whole world decided to no built systems similar to Panstir, then give US the Lybian version as premium.

Snail will be happy, same as the players from minor nations that will have some balance in the matches, since US rarely plays along URSS.

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Pantsir is also so easymode cause all radar contacts are shown with green brackets in third person view. Its hard to miss anything, its like arcade mode player brackets while all others play Ground RB without brackets. They just have their flat radar screen.

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