Yes Overpowered as a SAM, A SAMS job is to kill planes that’s the metric the Pantsir has been by and far the best at doing that hence it is overpowered in what it is in game to do.
Yes new CAS is making the Pantsir less relevant with new airframes that have the energy to defeat the missiles.
It’s not overpowered as a SAM because it can hardly fend off top-tier CAS.
You mean the 3 new jets added since the last update…
What about prior to that? Things move on in War thunder Pantsir is still the best sam by a country mile.
The SM3 was already beyond its capabilities. The F-15C models also had Mavericks capable of putting them into the ground. Hell, even my A-10C with glidebombs destroys them every time.
Mavs on F-15C? Besides they can easily shot the Mav down. And dying to GBU-39? Like for real?
As a ground player. Im not grinding planes to have a counter to CAS.
And how is it balanced if you uptiered from lets say 11.7 to max. BR, but encounter much more powerful aircraft, not just one BR higher, but two.
I understand the sentiment, and I was the same… but it really is the best interim fix.
As a Japan main now, I don’t really play arb much, but I do play GRB and grind my planes that way. I now have the 12.0 f16 and it’s the best to go after planes and tanks.
There does become a point where you’re the detriment if you aren’t able to contribute to your team in the most meaningful way you can. Unfortunately for most nations that is CAP. Even pantsir is not good enough for good players but most GRB players aren’t the best.
I beat f15e’s and typhoons in my f16aj. Just run radar off and close from the sides when you see someone. Or fire off an aim7 and crank to get on their side and close distance and use it as a distraction to close WVR then radar off and come in guns blazing with 9l’s.
All this said, we still need meaningful SPAA… but we don’t have it, so do what you can.
Also, GRB max I think it’s 12.7(but don’t quote me) so you’re really only 1 br away.
They break arb up because it’s only plane on plane so those small difference or big ones manifest is much larger ways which is why larger decompression occurred. GRB is more that AA gameplay so planes aren’t br’d the same way.