M44 and Lack of WW2 issues

Im going to try to keep this from being a rant too much, but I’ve got to voice a frustration I have that I share with so many players of this game.

Why does gaijin hate ww2 players? Or since @Stona_WT doesn’t like using paople saying the devs “hate” a player base, why does gaijin happily neglect the ww2 era of the game. It seems like its been thay way in every major update this year, bar the Belgium ww2 props.

If you need proof that this era of the game has been regulated down to an afterthought, just look at the M44 coming in game as revealed by the recent dev stream.

WW2 enjoyers have been asking for the ww2 SPHs like the Hummel, Priest, and Sexton for years. Now the devs want to add a low tier SPH and they make it the M44! Not just do they add a post war SPH instead of the WW2 ones, they put it in multiple TTs on opposing side of the war! Do the devs really not care about ground SIM? As if having M4s, T34s, Panzer 4s and KV1s on both side want bad enough. Now we have post war SPHs going to be coming to both sides of the gamemode mixed with the WW2 vehicles.

Did they just not think about their gamemode before making this decision?

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Looking at all the tanks… it’s obvious they love WW2, and I’ve been grinding many tanks for those BRs and have many unresearched added this year still.
I have SPAA to spade as well as a new howitzer to get.

Over 95% of them have been in the game for years. Theyve added more leopard 2s to the game this year than ww2 tanks in the past year.

Plus the point is that they’re adding poat war SPHs in spots where legacy ww2 SPHs should be and on top of that they’re copy pasting them into multiple trees where in modes like ground SIM they’ll be facing each other.

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I just miss the Historical Battles

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Oh no! They’re adding WW2 technology SPHs! The horror!
They’ll add more as well.

@Biggus_Dikus
There are Discords for that.

My guy, the SIM community has been asking to stop seeing the same tanks on both sides for awhile now due to IFF and friendly fire issues.

Plus the community has asked for the ww2 SPHs for years, why are you so for the game adding these copy paste vehicles? I can see by your profile youve been around even longer than me, I first played with the Royal Armor update, so why are you so for them keeping with this copy paste instead of adding unique vehicles like they used to?

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IFF works 100% of the time, if people aren’t hitting “R” before firing onto something that’s an issue on their end.

On top of that, the REASON why historical battles were removed was because OP vehicles existed as common place AND it was hilariously unpopular for the under-powered side which led to 10 minute queues for a guaranteed loss.

Realistic battles was always going to be the outcome if Gaijin wanted a massive audience, the realistic loving playerbase dislikes reenacting history; There’s a reason the most popular realistic games all lack historical reenactment. And the historical reenactment games are largely arcadey because the historical reenactment crowd doesn’t care if the game is realistic or not, they only care if they’re engaging in historical battles.

Those that like BOTH realism and historical reenactment are rare, they are the rarest group and thus the least profitable.

And you might not like it, but DCS and War Thunder are multi-ten million dollar projects, and funding that with the lowest popularity group in the world isn’t viable, so they fund it with the realism crowd instead which makes up a HUGE amount of the world playerbase.

You still have custom battles for historical reeactment if you want.

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Simulator players want a realistic environment but then get mad when countries are using the same tanks against each other???

If anything, make a suggestion for what you want.

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I agree with all of this, however, if they wanted to add the M44 where would they put it? There are vehicles that simply can’t be implemented if we want to tie the br with the era.

It’s true that WW2 feels abandoned. The biggest they’re doing this update is fixing the Chinese T-26 and that’s kinda it… devs are putting their biggest efforts in modern cause that’s what most money generates.

And yea all countries sharing the same vehicles is just disgusting, very easily exploitable in sim unless you memorize the exact colour of each nation.

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You are still avoiding explaining why youre defending the decision to add this copy paste vehicle to multiple trees instead of going with each nations unique vehicles.

I can see ti coming to Japan and Italy due to lack of historical examples, and they’re on the same side of the SIM brackets. But theres no reason why it needs to the American, German, and British trees when they have their own unique models and the French used American Priests, which would be fine because theyre always on the same side for ground SIM.

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I can see the M44 coming to the Japanese and Italian trees due to lack of historical examples, plus theyre on the same side of SIM brackets then. The french can use American Priests like they did IRL and still be on the same side of SIM ground.

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This vehicle isn’t being added instead of other vehicles, it’s being added alongside other vehicles in the future.
So your post starts off with misinformation.
Opposing vehicle additions is dumb, and opposing M44 is no different than opposing hummel.

Simulator has had IFF for years combined with the rangefinder functionality, and it works 100% of the time.

One thing youre missing about them adding this to multiple nations on opposite sides is that even if they chose the M7 Priest instead it would have been added to the same amount of nations almost, I personally think the M44 is close enough to being ww2, and one can make a exception for this vehicle because like look at the swedish tree alot of the vehicles are post war tho with sim its easy to just exclude these vehicles from the lineups. However I do agree and I still wish to see ww2 SPGs and I pray they will come eventually.

Personally i believe that all tech trees should receive the vehicles that hey operates in real life, be it tt, prem, or event.

The only problem with having multiple nations with the same vehicle is SIM, but thats not a vehicle problem, thats a Sim problem. All Gaijin has to do is remove vehicles from a bracket, say, if you’re playing against fascist italy, why do they get lend lease tanks?

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in addition to this is having historical brackets for cold war BRs I have no interest in playing Axis vs Allies at 12.0

You know what i dont want to do when coming across every vehicle in SIM thats the same as me when playing a M4 or a future M44? I dont want to have to wait for the rangefinder to tell my friend or foe and risk the other guy just sending it. At that point either way I’m dead and the other giy either has a TK or a kill on the scoreboard. Thats genuinely bad game design.

Plus it is being added instead of the Hummel or Priest. Its filling the same role, possibly in the same spot of the TT. The game Devs made the conscious decision to add it instead of a unique vehicle to the TT that would fit the time period of the BRs.

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I agree with you its really hard somtimes even make me feel bad when I kill a team mate from 1000 meter away cause it was sherman and then it was some italian dude and then yells at me

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Just because a vehicle fills a role does not stop other vehicles of similar role of being added.

Such a way of thinking towards games addition is just going to make players mad when vehicles are added.

M44 was added to multiple trees, much like Strela, as a way of working towards what i believe, is tech trees getting equipment they operated in real life, and i personally enjoy this push.

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it’s just that they put a Cold War SPA in the place of a WW2 SPA, that’s it

That would solve that issue 100%. You’ll have better luck winning the lottery 5 times in a row over getting to actually work on improving ground SIM. Adding these vehicles in the current state of SIM is just expanding the problem already set while blissfully turning a blind eye what the SIM community and and the WW2 playerbase was actually asking for. That on its own is pretty insulting.

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