M3A3 Bradley, BR discussion

You seem to forget that I’m largely agreeing with you just with a different solution that brings up the things that would over-perform over M3A3.

And I apologize for anything I stated that you didn’t easily understand or caused any other issues for our understanding cause you and I are on the same page, just different paragraphs.

well you don’t seem to agree with me like all of your posts trying to belittle me, like this one.

The post you quoted is treating you as an equal and taking accountability for my posts.

You have posts containing claims such as: Criticizing 2S38 is defending it.

Meanwhile all I did initially was come into the topic and state that things might have to be increased in BR to give M3A3 breathing room.

AKA

as competitive for my stance, but same paragraph on the page.

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Especially since a 9.7 M3A3 changes nothing cause it’ll still be in the 10.0 lineup.


Since no one else did I’ll just post it now, this is what’s on page 2-366. Under “equipment conditions” it states that the vehicle is parked + hand brake.

Additionally, in FM-3-22.1 it states that “only a stationary Bradley can fire its TOW”.
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@MistaFin
This is a non-final list of BR changes:
VCC-80/60: 9.3 - 9.7.
Begleitpanzer: 9.7.
ZBD04A: 9.7 - 10.0.
M3A3: 10.0.
Desert Warrior: 10.0.
BMP-2M: 10.0.
2S38: 10.3.
Strf 9040C: 10.0 - 10.3.
Strf 9040 BILL: 10.0 - 10.3.
Freccia: 10.7.
Namer 30: 10.7.
KF-41: 10.7 - 11.0.
HSTVL 11.3/11.7.

Decompression. Gives M3A3 breathing room since it’ll be in 10.0 lineups regardless, and upticks everything arguably superior to it.
MBTs and light tanks could and likely should uptick as well.

There you go. I can respect that, then. However, I still don’t think it should fold automatically.

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In game BMP-2M is equal to M3A3???

This is true, but its not that we should keep it at 10.0 just because it will be in the 10.0 lineup.

I would like you to quote these then.

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you didn’t even say things needed to be moved up. you said there “could be compression around 10.0.” you then name things that are, in your opinion, powerful for their battle rating. Don’t forget, you stated “M3A3 is balanced where it is”

Oh no I agree, the automatic folding is kinda annoying and doesn’t seem to have much purpose even balance wise when it already can’t fire on the move.

No it absolutely doesn’t. And its called “lap load”.
So not only are your internet unqualified, you also have a strong case of Dunning Krugers.

i mean sure but I, personally, think the BMP-2M probably needs moved up, especially if 2S38 and literally anything else at 10.0 is getting moved up. I definitely could be wrong on this, but from what i’ve seen, I thought it was probably the best 10.0 IFV

I’ve yet to see evidence of BMP-2M either in the cross analysis or practical testing that it can do more than M3A3.
It’s of course subject to change, I just haven’t found the angle yet if it exists.

I thought that by giving the few examples I had at the time would explicitly indicate that.

Also BMP-2M is largely inferior to the 10.3 suggestions I posted such as 2S38 and Strf 9040 BILL.

Obviously BMP-2M is inferior to Freccia. Whether it’s on-par with Vilkas that’s up for debate, I know Vilkas is larger than Freccia.

I actually have a USMC ex-M1A1 crewman friend. Pretty cool dude, He says his loaders, and himself regularly did that. Also, we could probably ask @Conte_Baracca

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Faster, more missiles loaded at once, missiles are more competent vs the enemy they face, launcher can be fired on the move, cannon is genuinely better, what more do you need?

The BMP-2M is better than the M3A3 in this game, in every way.

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When the alternative is to either inhibit movement when the launcher is up or for it to be damaged if you do?

Why’d you have to give it away like that?!?!

I think its quite a bit faster (not sure) the gun is much faster firing (with a comparable APFSDS round) and the missiles are better, as they can be fired on the move with better penetration than the TOW-2A, but I guess it doesn’t have a top-down missile.

Brother, can you find me an example of a bradley’s launcher breaking just because the crew drove with it open? Or are you gonna be like the russia fanboys when I ask them to show me videos of the R-73 doing the things they claim it can do?

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i mean it suggests it but I think depending on the arguments you had made you probably needed to be a bit more clear that you’re saying such

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They are either lying or you are mistaken.

Enlighten me, how are you so sure?