Why are the ranks of M24 Chaffee (and AMX13-M24) tanks inconsistent?
They all share the same Battle Rating of 3.7 and the same 75mm M6 Cannon. They all have .50s on the roof, the same selection of ammunition. With the exception of the French one, they all have the same armor layout and mobility. The AMX13-M24 has less hull armor, more turret armor, and is slightly faster, but the magnitude of these differences is negligible.
So why are some of them Rank II and some of them Rank III?
American M24 - Rank II
Japanese M24 - Rank III
Chinese M24 - Rank II
Italian M24 - Rank III
French AMX13-M24 - Rank II
Danish M24DK - Rank III
Of these six tanks that are functionally if not completely identical, half are Rank II and half are Rank III, why?
If it were any other Rank divide it wouldn’t really matter but the difference between Rank II and Rank III is significant as Rank III is the standard cutoff point for tasks and challenges.
Personally, I think all of these tanks should be the same Rank, and I would prefer them to be Rank III, however I’d rather they all be Rank II than continue to be inconsistent. What say the rest of you?
Should all M24 Tanks be the same Rank?
- YES - All M24 Tanks should be the same Rank
- NO - The inconsistency in Rank is fine.
If yes, which Rank should they be?
- Rank II
- Rank III
- I voted No
Rank is mostly just there to keep vehicles in a roughly even spread down the tree
But it can mean some nations have 3.7’s in rank 2 and some in rank 3, it really doesn’t matter that much though
It matters between Ranks II and III for the sake of tasks and challenges.
Take for example two of this month’s decal challenges.
The Swedish Challenge requires 40 kills in a Light Tank of at least Rank III.
The Chinese Challenge requires 60 kills in any tank of at least Rank III.
Why should the Danish M24 be viable for the Swedish Challenge, but the Chinese M24 not be viable for the Chinese Challenge? They are the exact same tank, it makes no sense.
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There are other tanks you can use
Of course there are, but that’s not the point.
These are identical tanks, they should have identical ranks.
Also the reasoning of tree spread doesn’t work for the Chinese M24. China has 3 Rank II light tanks, and 1 Rank III light tank. Moving the M24 to Rank III would actually be more even.
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Move the Sweden 3.7’s down, rank 2 gets more crowded and rank 3 is now pretty empty
China is the opposite, moving the 3.7’s up, rank 2 gets empty and rank 3 gets crowded
Its fine how it is currently
You have Sweden and China backwards, but that’s not important.
Having a nice even tree layout shouldn’t matter more than Rank consistency, especially when the divide between Ranks II and III is so functionally important.
Furthermore the French AMX13-M24 is a Premium. If people are paying Golden Eagles to unlock it then it should definitely be Rank III so it can be used for grinding tasks and challenges. A Rank III AMX13-M24 would draw more sales.
Sweden’s M24 is rank 3 and China’s is rank 2. You’re either moving the rank 2’s up or the rank 3’s down if you want them all the same.
My bad, to me Rank II is “up” and Rank III is “down” due to Tree orientation.
Right, I was going just by number
Insert pun about rank inconsistency here.
Always a compromise, tree now sideways
ranks are for progression mostly. Some are rank 2 and others are rank 3 and it is due to how they want those tech trees to progress.
Im not against making them the same rank but there is a reason behind it.
Sd.Kfz.234/2 should also go to Rank III.
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Same vehicles, idk why they not in the same ranks lol Rank 3 would help since thats where all the tasks and challenges begin. Not fair that some nations get to complete them and some don’t with the same vehicle.
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This is in a way just as stupid as the F-84F. All of them are rank VI except the US one.
They are literally the same plane, same BR. But the US one gets airspawn because it is rank V.
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Perhaps but to be clear I’m not saying all 3.7s should be Rank III, this thread is specifically about the M24s.
Rank is given to help a nation lacking a vehicle type in said rank. Given the majority of rank III vehicles on the US are around 5.x and not 3.x it makes sense that the M24 is rank II and not III
The Dutch CV9035 is rank VII but the Danish ome is VI meaning the Dutch one gets thermal scout drones while at the same BR as the Danish one.
Same thing different nation
imo, better solution is convert all rank based systems (e.g daily tasks or reward modifiers) to BR based systems.
They should be moved to 4.3 where they belong and put to rank 3.
The AMX-13 F-11 was already at that BR, it’s time for the M24s to join it.
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