Literally, the guy showed a Bradley pinging a M1 turret ring and not penning, then did so with an M1A2, and you said, “I don’t do Reddit, do this instead to accommodate my patience.”
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You’re being disingenuous, there was no wild claims you saw here enough for you to forget. Go back and find the claims that YOU are asking for proof for.
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Yes I did indeed say that I didn’t do reddit. I did indeed say that you can pen an M1 turret ring with a panzer 4 shell which is something I have seen people bring up multiple times for why the M1A2 turret ring is bad.
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No, the people being disingenuous are you and the others making claims and then when you’re asking to substantiate them, you don’t. It is not my job to prove your case for you.
If you want to make the claim, you prove it.
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Find the claims YOU want evidence for, and if I agree with them, I’ll bring the evidence. Go ahead.
Do you somehow disagree?
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That isn’t how it works sunshine. The original posts where I asked for evidence are all still there. Just because you didn’t provide evidence for them when I asked doesn’t mean I’m going to waste my time going through it all to repost it all again for you to ignore it a second time.
You make a claim, you prove it. Nothing stopping you replying to any of my previous posts asking for evidence with it if you have suddenly found it.
I suspect not though.
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I don’t know what claims you don’t have proof of, and you arent owed anything for us to comb through the entire thread just for you. Until you actually make a point and bring me the claims you want evidence of, why are you even here?
Disagree with what? The the turret ring is a weakspot? Of course not. All tanks have weakspots. The abrams has less frontal weakspots than a lot of other tanks. It has more frontal weakspots than some tanks. Nothing else to add to it.
Tanks have weakspots, this is nothing new.
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I don’t know what claims you don’t have proof of
Probably because anything I asked you for you’ve already forgotten.
and you arent owed anything for us to comb through the entire thread just for you.
Well you are, if you make a claim and I ask you for evidence and you simply don’t provide any and instead just throw out some verbal abuse and move on my your claim is still hollow until you provide that evidence. What your kind tend to do is then just bring up the same, unsourced and unevidenced claims later on and when asked again you will repeat the same tactic.
You seem to think that by simply not providing evidence and just repeating it enough times that in itself will become the evidence. It will not.
Until you actually make a point and bring me the claims you want evidence of, why are you even here?
Anything I have asked for evidence for is still in the thread for you or whoever I asked to respond to. It is not my prerogative if you forgot to evidence your claim.
So you don’t think it should be improved? Even though AA guns and other autocannons can penetrate it?
And we can’t have the T-series turned into a weak spot, right? Also what you said.
Not reading all this. Tell me what claims you want evidence for. Until then, im not responding on this subject.
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Gotta love when they say, “your kind”, am I right? The palpable dehumanizing or belittling of people is why these threads go off the rails.
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What are you even trying to show with these two images?
Even though AA guns and other autocannons can penetrate it?
Quite a few top tier tanks have spots that can be penetrated by autocannons. I don’t particularly see it as an issue. I’ve used the 120S quite a lot and it sees basically all the autocannons that the M1A2 sees and has an even larger turret ring and never found to have much of an issue with autocannons.
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Guys even if General Dynamic engineers comes to this forum and give us exact Numbers on every Abrams some toxic people will still find a way to not believe it.
Dont waste your time with them and focus on inaccuracies.
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Ah but when you handwave everybody who disagrees with you or asks you for evidence as “US haters” it’s all good right?
Still waiting by the way.
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And we can’t have the T-series turned into a weak spot, right? Also what you said.
Ah yes because the abrams turret ring and making the entire UFP of all the T-series tanks essentially not exist while a giant ammo carousel sits behind it is clearly the same. Definitely not a false equivalency here.
This is also why people say that US mains just want the abrams to absolutely stomp everything.
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Waiting for what? o.O
I’d asked him for evidence for numerous claims he made over the last 1-200 posts, of which he has still not provided any.