M113 C&V: Dutch Recon

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Welcome to another suggestion, here we’ll be having a look at a Dutch M113 variant: the M113 C&V.

The M113 C&V (Commando en verkenning), also known as the M113 C&R is the smallest M113 variant that has been produced. The vehicle was designed in the 1960s with reconnaissance as its intended purpose. To achieve this goal, the vehicle was altered in a few ways. First of all, the height was decreased to make it a smaller target. The crew compartment in the back was also entirely removed. This freed up space for the engine to be shifted to the rear of the vehicle. The engine was formerly situated above the drivetrain, this location switch changed that, which thus made it possible to lower the roof height. The removal of the crew compartment also shortened the vehicle, making it possible to reduce the amount of wheels from 5 on each side to 4. The base vehicle does retain the same engine, however, thanks to the C&V being an overall smaller and lighter vehicle, it has a slight advantage in mobility over the standard M113.

The Dutch army acquired 266 M113 C&Vs in 1966. In their original configuration, they were equipped with an M2 Browning .50 machine gun that could be fired without the crew having to expose themselves. This armament clearly did not suit the Dutch as only 5 years later the decision was made to look for an upgraded armament for the vehicles. 2 Years later, in 1973, it was announced that the vehicles would be fitted with the Oerlikon-Bührle GBD-ADA turret. This turret features a 25mm KBA-B autocannon, which drastically improved the firepower of the vehicle. The new turret also featured night vision equipment and a FN MAG 7,62 mm machine gun. The original upgrade plan called for 234 M113 C&Vs to receive the new armament, but in 1974 it was decided to upgrade all 266 vehicles instead. One thing to note is that the added weight of the new turret on the chassis did remove the amphibious capabilities of the vehicle.
The Dutch M113 C&V remained in service for a significant period of time, eventually being retired in 1994 in favor of the YPR-765, which has in turn been replaced by the Fennek, Boxer and CV9035. Some of the retired Dutch vehicles have been sold to other countries. 35 Vehicles ended up in Bahrain, another 8 in Chile.

General Characteristics:

  • Crew: 3 (commander, driver, observer)
  • Weight: 9 t combat load, 8.1 t empty
  • Length: 4.80 m
  • Width: 2.27 m
  • Height: 2.73 m to turret top
  • Engine: GMC 6V53 6-cylinder diesel
  • Power output: 215 hp at 2.800 rpm
  • Max speed: 71 km/h on road
  • Power to weight ratio: 23.9 hp/t

Armament:

  • Main armament: 1x 25 mm Oerlikon KBA-B autocannon
    • Ammunition: 450 rounds, 80 APDS and 120 HEI ready to fire
    • Elevation: -12/+52
  • Coaxial armament: 1x 7.62 mm FN MAG machine gun

Place in-game:
The M113 C&V is a unique Dutch variant of the M113 which has been in service with the Dutch army in significant numbers. Besides this it also simply appears to be a very interesting vehicle, combining good mobility, low visibility and a comfortable amount of firepower. All of these properties make it a very worthwhile addition to the game. With the Netherlands now being part of a subtree in France, the vehicle could also serve to further ameliorate the lack of tracked autocannon vehicles that the tree is currently struggling with.
Players can expect this vehicle to perform somewhat like a cross between a Wiesel and a more traditional IFV, making for a vehicle that is very well suited to flanking operations and striking from where it is least expected. If positioned correctly, you can fire while only exposing your gun, making it very hard for the enemy to spot you. The -12° of gun depression also allows players to make use of a lot of positions that are inaccessible to plenty of other vehicles.
All-in-all this should be a very fun and useful addition to the game, and one that enthusiasts of the Dutch armed forces will very much welcome.

Sources

M-113 C & V rups pantservoertuig landmacht VS
M113½ C/V Lynx - Tank Encyclopedia
M113 Commando & Verkenning - collectie - Nationaal Militair Museum
https://sleutelspoor.nl/m113-cv/
M113 C&R | Weaponsystems.net

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What an interesting vehicle! I really like it, and I think it’d be a PERFECT rat tank. +1

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Oooh, I’ve been waiting for this one! That gun looks so modern/futuristic that it’s hard to believe it was made in the middle of the cold war.

Plus, any cold war M113 gets an upvote from me!

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This thing looks wayy too much like the Pbv 301 The turret looks so similar just way more chunky lol, Only more Sci-fi +1

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good suggestion, but I must clarify that the turret is a GBD-AOA, the same turret is used in Chile for the M113A2, I leave you here the technical specifications


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What’s the differences between the ADA and AOA turrets? I have a hard time finding any link/source talking about both of them or giving enough stats for a comparison.

the dutch shouldnt be in the french tree, they honestly fit better in either the Swedish tree or the creation of a BENELUX tree to hold minor European nations

The creation of a BeNeLux tree or a combined minor European nation tree with the BeNeLux and say Switzerland and Austria I definitely agree with. The Netherlands in the Swedish tree though, that’s a rather extreme stretch. I also agree that the Dutch in the French tree is weird, but they used some French tech and share a border. The BeNeLux connection to France obviously hinges almost entirely on Belgium though.
I would like you to justify why they’d need to go to Sweden though. That tree already has the Finnish subtree and looks more than destined to expand further with the Norwegians and Danes. Making it a very fleshed out tree. The Dutch share no border with Sweden, share no language with Sweden, have no military cooperation with them afaik either. So… Why would they go there! There’s almost nothing more than the use of the CV90.

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Yeah this vehicle wouldn’t fit in the Swedish tree. Only export vehicles like the CV9035NL would be okay IMO, we already see this in other trees in the game. This only works for vehicles built and exported obviously, and wouldn’t work for any other vehicles.

But I must say that the Netherlands is oddly parallel to the Nordic countries in many surveys and other ends and vibe well together with them. But I dunno if that is enough to justify placing military vehicles together, that’s a bit like comparing apples and oranges, I feel.