The M103 before the major update had LFP hull armor what could actually mostly hold up against 122s and Long 88s. Now these weapons see an M103 and it’s a; Point. And click.
Even the weld point where the UFP and LFP meet have a massive drop-off in protection for seemingly no reason.
In my opinion having a somewhat strong LFP made it so you could actually brawl against the soviet heavy tanks if you wanted to and now you’re just Conqueror status with a near useless LFP but without the Stabilizer that the Conq gets.
Maybe skill issue but that’s my thoughts.
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it got nerfed because of T58 since they share the same hull they get the same nerfs and it really shouldn’t have 7 peaces instead of 1 big LFP and UFP peace it used to have way to many peaces
I get that but, isn’t the issue with T58 not the hull but the turret which is volumetric hell? So why nerf the hull? (Armour-wise the reload is the worst problem surrounding that)
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it’s not a nerf, it’s just better data for the damage model. But I do think that it should be moved down to 7.3 (I felt it was overtiered even before the change)
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the hull could eat Abrams rounds if you get lucky
this is the old hull of T58 (shared m103 hull) since m103 got design reworked this update it got a new hull
I agree, the heat round is pretty awful for being a 120mm and you have solid shot which is okay but you get a unrealistic reload meanwhile the French got the same gun but with a 6 second autoloader.
Sure France doesn’t have armour but you don’t really need it with the firepower you get with that.
it is a nerf sort of while it is more realistic it can no longer eat APFSDS rounds like it used to since it doesn’t have 7 different levels of armor and it sees 9.7 with much better tanks going against it and some APS too
Its armour isnt random clusters of armour plates in the damage model anymore, youre just bouncing less shells that should have gone clean through. A soft nerf if you will as its a higher quality vehicle now
It was never an armour meta vehicle anyway, its a fat canon to snipe with rather than a immovable object.
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The cannon is nerfed too.
how so? same reload and monster of a HEAT shell
The sloped performance of the AP is heavily nerfed.
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oh that sucks for the stock grind until you get the HEAT shot
Its still a nerf.
yea. guessing it was updated to the de marre system?
No, Gaijin has nerfed uncapped AP since the launch of the game.
its just a pure AP and not a CBC? thats odd considering the period the gun was developed.
It’s APBC specifically for the sloped performance benefits. The US developed APBC to replace AP and APCBC after WWII.
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Volumetric = less armor.
T58’s turret has nothing to do with volumetric, if it wasn’t volumetric it’d have more armor than it does currently.
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Yeah but the AP round known for chewing the IS-3 and T-54 at range should do so in game… Even for balance it should do that reliably.
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Another victim of the extremely flawed de marre calculator method
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