Sure let me fix it for you.
Here, 3BM60 still penetrates your cheeks without issue while same cant be said for M338, i’ll give you credit for ignoring most vital parts and focusing on slight angle difference.
Oh it penetrates just fine, i also tested with my friend not too long ago in order to remind myself why im not playing with Merkava’s anymore.
Anyway you got anything else? This is getting quite boring m8.
Does not change the fact that the gun handling is objectively bad.
I explained this in a later comment.
What? What are you on about? Its both. Its well known that Type 10 accelerates faster than Type 90, however the acceleration in game is the opposite. The CVT is not modelled.
If this was how some scenarios played out NATO hump would NEVER be a problem. It is sometimes, not always. Leclerc and Type 10 hull turning are also rather sluggish.
They are equal. Smaller silhouette also nukes survivability. There are quite a few map objects you can also shoot above due to Merkavas height which is unexpected by enemies.
I have never had a problem with BMP-2Ms, ever. They are fodder vehicles. By the time he can even get one round off with his autocannon he’s already gone. And ofc, in 1v2, it depends on how paid your enemies are to lose to 1 guy.
They fixed it…
And in a lot of these areas the spall is soaked up by engine.
Huh? Merkava Mk.3 was NOT immune to Kornet. Merkava Mk.4 armor is underperforming against CE but IRL a Kornet hit the turret wedge and it flew off.
Go play them out again. 20 games in them. Don’t throw.
That is still not the right angle. Go test it with a friend in a custom like I did.
2A7 UFP? No. It does not. I tried it with M829A2 in game last week.
Am i stupid or is the m338s pen wrong its faster then dm53 out of the l44 and heavier but pens 13 mils less put of the same gun and also dm53 out of the l44 at 500m has the same pen as m338 out of the l44 the only difference is that dn53 l44 has 1 mil more pen at 30° then m338?
You guys are getting a bit off topic just as a heads up
Yeah i see that now
That’s too low. It should be level with where you’re shooting assuming you’re shooting beyond ~200m away:
All he did was shoot my Mk.4 turret as I told him where to shoot. I think even a level 1 could do this.
It did not penetrate in our testing.
In my hundreds of games I died to turret ammorack twice.
Not all hills are like this.
I don’t know. I feel like I would notice, considering I can notice the 1 deg of difference between Leo 2 and Abrams. But the depression has not failed me yet.
Fair enough.
How close were you shooting from?
How often do they shoot your right cheek?
If the hill is too steep, neither the Merkava nor the Type 10 would be able to play hull-down.
If the hill is shallow, then there’s no need to use suspension – both the Type 10 / Merkava would be able to play hull-down.
If the hill requires more than ~7 degrees of gun depression, then of course the suspension controls would help, such as with the inclination included in the picture I posted.
Strange.
Only 4 degree difference on horizontal and 5 degree difference on elevation which can be totally manageable if you’re a semi decent player.
Someone doesnt know the first rule of survivability it seems, anyway it comes to personal preference on this part so im not gonna push.
Any player who has more than one more braincell will not have any issues with bmp2m but this doesnt change the fact that it can easily immobilize you from front with its main gun only which was the main part about this conversation since the topic was about merkava’s protection.
Just tried on test drive and it seems they indeed fixed it, my bad on that part.
Quite cherrypicked since i can say the otherwise, when it was first released Merkava family’s engine indeed soaking the spall, on these days its quite random.
Irl it was, at least when it was facing in hulldown position.
Just for the sake of conversation i will play with them for 5 games not planning to torture myself with this building sized cardboard.
100m. Might be too close lmao.
In my experience? Mostly breach, they dont want to gamble with the turret as they dont face Mk.4s often enough to know where to shoot.
Possibly.
I would try somewhere around ~300m or more.
Then that may be why.
Its quite noticeable tbh. The elevation on Type 10 ticks me off.
Yeah, I know, don’t get hit. But if you do, Merkava often gives you a second chance.
Tracks. On all MBTs.
I have not done research on the turret but the hull was terrible.
To be honest with you, getting your transmission destroyed by autocannons seems a lot less of a problem than what the Type 10, Leclerc, and Abrams have to deal with.
Might go and retest it tomorrow.
Either way, I think Merkava is given too much shit for what it is, its a good vehicle, often used in the competitive scene because its just plain good.
I’m not denying that it’s good, and I think a lot of people (especially @Pangolin_Fan ) severely underrate them.
That being said, I’d say the Type 10 and Merkava Mk.4 have enough pros and cons compared to one another to make them both equally as good in my eyes.
Merkava is also really good with side-scraping since it has no engine in the rear, though it only has 11 rounds in its first-stage and the rest sits in the rear of the tank.
Type 10 has a really good reload for equally as capable dart but can get autocannon’d relatively easily.
Yeah they fixed APS such that they now active from much further away too.
9.3-10.0 Merkavas can still somewhat reliably use their engines / transmission to soak up some shots.
Top Tier Merkavas (Mk.3 and Mk.4)… not so much from my experience.
Thats true. The loader side does not house ammo (unless you bring like 30+) so you can show your loader side in sidescraping and see basically their entire tank while they cant do much of anything to you.
