Fair enough.
nope.
gotta ask, you agree that the abrams, while harder to use than t80’s, are overall a better tank for better players to use, right?
While the t80’s on the other hand with not needing as much skill, cant perform to the same standards as an abrams when played by those same players.
Mainly Is your stance that sense t80’s are easier to play while having a good chance to survive most flick shots that they’re better over all in this game? And sense an abrams doing the same thing will almost always die 9/10 times?
The only thing regular M1 needs is the M833 otherwise its perfectly capable tank at 10.7.
People compare to Chally1’s and forgetting that despite having better turret armor and firepower Chally 1 lacks mobility, gun handling, ready rack capacity and flexibility compare to M1 Abram’s tho recent engine power buff made Chally 1 slightly more mobile than before.
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Thx for proving my point.
Maybe we can take your opinion seriously once you actually back your opinion with actual data instead of just stuff pulled out of your imagination.
He doesn’t. He thinks that the Abrams is a bad tank overall and that a good player can get much more done in a T-80.
Which is incorrect of course.
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Chally 1s are pretty good now from what I can tell.
Same with the Chally 2s.
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The Abrams is just overall worse in GRB than most MBTs.
My stance is that the main advertised advantage of the Abrams, that being mobility and firepower, is matched by most other MBTs.
The T-80 in particular has near 1-1 identical mobility with a better shell selection and better armor.
Yeah, it’s definitely worse than the
- Ariete
- Leclerc
- Merkava
- VT4
- T-90M
- Challenger 2
For real for real, this is a list of tanks that the abrams is definitely worse than for real for sure for real
Said mobility:
Weird how that bottom number is different
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That sure is an interesting take.
Idk much about the Leclerc, some say it’s bad, some say it’s good. The Merkava, Chally, and Ariete are without a doubt worse than the Abrams.
Pretty low bar though.
Yeah that’s definitely a genuine list of MBTs that I think are better than the abrams! Fr fr ong!
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Fantastic survivability on Merkava 4’s?
Even turret can be penetrated by 3BM42.
Reload is good but nothing special
Penetration power is good but nothing special as well.
Gun angle is pretty average
Same amount of MG’s that M1A2 family has
lol. Lmao even.
Yes. They tend to tank plenty of hits before dying.
Honestly? Turret in my experience is mostly fine. Very few times you do get onetapped through it but what tank doesnt occasionally have that happen? Also, with how protection analysis works, the turret armor is actually different in game due to the weird angles behind the main comp “shields”.
5s reload is nothing to scoff at. Its pretty darn good.
You also get that amazing SAPHE, which while it did get a nerf, is still amazing.
Tbf, they also have a ton of MGs. And Merkava Mk.4M .50 is controlled by the gunner so you never lose it, however the angles on it are rather bad.
No NATO hump.
I also forgot to mention that the Merkava Mk.4s are amazing against autocannons, they can’t pen your upper side, and the lower side is a struggle for most of them, and the large amounts of empty space minimize the damage you take if some do pen @Beeschurger
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My Merkava4’s laughing quite hard to this claim.
Its not, anyone who played Merkava 4’s knows how trash their armor is.
Until you realize there are other tanks that has the same or better reload speed with better ready rack and different advantages.
Unless you’re shooting soft or air targets or in best case aiming weakspots on hulldown enemy tanks is pretty much pointless shell.
So does Leclerc, Type-10 which both of them has better mobility better ready rack,same or even better reload, better gun depression and more.
lol even BMP2M can penetrate your LFP with its APFSDS easily.
My Merkava Mk.4s say otherwise.
The armor is not the main selling point, the survivability is, however, the turret is fine.
TKX is a joke of a tank. Just because other tanks have 5s reload doesn’t make any less good. Abrams is the only 5s-mobile better than the Merkava Mk.4.
Both have NATO hump, they have significantly reduced depression over the rear. Leclerc has -2 for example. Type 10 honestly has worse mobility with that awful transmission. Leclerc is faster, albeit the transmission feels way worse at lower speeds, like the tracks have molasses on them. The gun depression on Merkava has not griefed me out of a position yet, it feels adequate, more than 7 even.
And do what damage exactly? Lol. All he can do is damage your transmission.
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Your Merkava’s must be made from vibranium then cause every person who plays Merkava4’s knows how trash its armor is.
Survability? lol.
Did you just called TKX a joke? Man this guy is something else Xd.
Tell me you never played Leclerc/TKX without telling me you never played them.
Both of them especially Leclerc doesnt have NATO Hump, stop spreading misinformation please.
Type-10 has worse mobility than Merkava4? Jeez dude what you’re smoking.
Damage your transmission set you on fire immobilize you while killing you with its ATGM’s or causing you to get killed by another MBT’s.
Seriously dude you have no idea what you’re talking about.
He managed a 5.0KD on his Merkavas so something obviously worked.
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And? Doesnt change the reality of Merkava’s problems Buddy.
You can get great k/d ratio by simply camping, using your teammates as baits or sitting at the back and picking targets that is coming to you.
I saw similiar results achieved on Leclerc or even Ariete by another players.
I have 3+ K/D ratio in J35D, does that mean its a great plane without any weakness or I just used it like a vulture?
Here, according to his claim that so called trash TKX has similiar stats to Merkava 4M in terms of K/D ratio while having much better WR, btw 4M is the only Merkava 4 that has comparable stats to TKX rest of them are just straight up worse.
So yea his claims doesnt represent half of the truth about Merkava 4’s, you can ask other players who constantly plays Merkava 4 on its dedicated thread.
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dont we have the IMP1? it has the m900? but i think it to high br of 11.3(it was fine bevor the BMPT)
The IPM1 is either fine at 11.3 or slightly too low in BR depending on who you ask, but saying it’s at a too high BR is wild.
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i mean it is fine, but bmbts?