So you’re saying the Esports players, some of the best in game, don’t play casual? It’s players like them that drive the stats up. Why do you think they chose the Abrams so frequently in those tournaments? Yes tournament stats wouldn’t be used, but they got really good at the game by playing casual
Skilled players also play the Merkava and claim it’s the best MBT.
I’m saying a tank being played in ESports doesn’t make it good in casual.
But the Merkavas are also good?
What are you trying to say?
I don’t think any skilled player would say the top tier Merkavas are the best MBTs, but I could see them saying the 9.3 / 9.7 / 10.0 Merkavas being so (especially the 9.7 one).
The Mk.4s are actually really good, top 3 top tier MBTs behind 2A7/122 and Abrams.
The armour (turret armour) and gun depression are just lacking, but other than that, they’re definitely good.
Merkavas are among the worst MBTs in WT.
There actually was some guy with thousands of Merkava games who called it meta.
There’s always gonna be some guy with thousands of games in a vehicle calling it good, no matter how bad it is.
How can you say the Merkavas are terrible, if you’ve never even played any of them.
I don’t needa play a Tu-4 to know it’s bad.
From my experience, that is far from the case.
Okay, META is different from being the BEST.
Yes, it’s META at 9.3, 9.7, and 10.0.
It could also be meta for 11.3 and possibly for 12.3.
Is it the BEST for 9.3, 10.0, 11.3, 12.3? Probably not.
But at 9.7, it probably IS the best.
Thousands of games… sure.
Thousands of games… and are actually good? I doubt that.
That’s true.
Damn the projection is strong with this one, since this is exactly what you are doing.
Bonus points as well since you aren’t even close to any of the MBTs you like to talk about, which just proves that you just pull a lot of stuff out of your ass.
Pangolin is just a textbook example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
A person with limited knowledge or competence greatly overestimating their own knowledge or competence.
@Necrons31467 I massively respect the amount of patience you have to argue this guy in depth. (well at least your side of the argument is in depth)
projection inception
Necrons: comes with an in depth post with numbers from tests to back his claims.
You: lol no the stuff I pulled from my ass disagrees so you are wrong.
I’m sorry but I very often bring the amx 30 super at 11.0 and I never had the gun being an issue
380mn of pen the M1 has is perfectly usable at that br
This has never been a good argument for anything. The gun has far less leeway with penetrating and has far worse damage than pretty much every other MBT at the BR
Are they? Geniunely asking.
Yes.
They have okay forwards mobility, great reverse, good reload, great shell selection, fantastic survivability, “trolly” armor (new players dont know where to shoot), solid gun angles, tons of MGs, LWS, APS, etc.
Isnt turret ring an issue seeing as it has only 7° of gun depression and rear placed turret?
I dont know why, but the 7 deg definitely doesnt feel like 7, it feels more like 9. I cannot recall a single time where the gun depression griefed me out of a spot.