The Abrams is just way more versatile than the Type 10/TKX, has a higher skill ceiling/potential than any of the T-80s and are about on par or slightly better than the 2A5-2A6 Leos.
Your Abrams stats aren’t because the tank is bad, the Abrams is not hard to go positive in. You can’t use the “but muh tank” excuse this time.
If the Abrams was actually good, then its stats would reflect such. You can’t even use the but premium noobs excuse cause premium Leopards and premium T-80s both exist. The Abrams doesn’t have a higher skill ceiling than other tanks, it just requires more skill to do the same as other tanks.
Again, there’s no reason to use an Abrams over any thing else other than a Chally, Ariete, or Merk. Its armor as bad, and its survivability is terrible. Its firepower is maybe average at best. Its mobility is matched or exceeded by most other MBTs. It fails in all three sections of the iron triangle.
Most Abrams at 12.7 have similar stats to the not uparmored Leopard 2s and T-series except for the T-80BVM in december. The Type 10s have better stats due to minor nation players.
The M1A2T currently has the highest K/D and K/S of all 12.7 MBTs, so much for being a bad tank huh?
(EDIT: I missed the 2A7HU, so I guess it’s second best for K/D)
The M1A1 Clickbait also has better stays in december than the T-80UE-1.
So you were saying?
Lmao. It’s firepower is far better than average. It’s firepower is only beaten by the Type 10/TKX.
It does. Place 2 equally good players in a T-80 and Abrams, the Abrams player will curbstomp the T-80 player.
tbf, the Abrams does have a higher skill potential but does punish normal players more for their mistakes. Where things like t80’s have a low skill ceiling but are far more forgiving for mistakes.
Or in short, T80’s are great for the 15 minute matches we have with rb and Abrams are good for tournament/sim matches.
Add in things like the unrealistic turret basket, 50mm neck, tiny maps and a horrendously compressed br and it really does stack up against normal players.
The AIM is easily a 12.3 material, having 12.7 Abram’s FCS at 12.0 while having a round more or less equal to its counterpart.
And yes, the vehicles are good, and you are just bad bro
1.1KD is respectable? I thought anyone could achieve this by holding w to the objective point like a headless chicken lol
I swear the moment people start pulling stats to “win” arguments these threads just devolve into a hellscape. Just accept the fact that people will have different views on stuff because of their different experiences.
Leo 2? Which one? If this is the 12.0 2A4M, the Abrams has better mobility, reverse, reload, shell selection, ammo stowage, armor, and more.
T-80? If this is comparing it to the 12.0 UE1, the Abrams has better shell selection, reload, gun handling, reverse, reaction times, depression, among other pros.
Type 10 and TKX are jokes of a tank and you would know if you had played them. Atrocious gun angles, gun handling, mobility, etc.
No. Abrams is better in RB as well. The better reload, mobility, reverse, depression, etc. allows you to use more positions, knock out more targets, and get out of there when you need to.
Then how do some players perform incredibly well against them? Are they cheating?
And the Leo 2 (Germany Leo 2, Swedish Leo 2, French Leo 2, and Italy Leo 2), heck, even the 10.7 Obj 292 if we wanna go there.
The only MBTs with worse firepower are the T-series and the Chally/Ariete/Merk. Again, Abrams being compared to the three worst MBTs in the game.
You mean the Chinese Abrams that’s for some reason better than all the U.S. Abrams?
lol, no.
What you meant to say was 12.7 Abrams are 12.3 material.
If QoL advantages are all you can say good about the Abrams, then it’s probably bad.
T-80 has better armor, better survivability, and better shells to use, all with equal mobility. Y’know, advantages that actually matter ingame.
Yes. The fact that Abrams manages to be worse is some good food for thought.
‘‘For some reason’’
Lol.
I sure do wonder what sets the CHINESE TECH TREE Abrams apart from the AMERICAN TECH TREE Abrams… Unfortunately this will forever remain a mystery to us all.
lmao.
Worse firepower than the Abrams due to the full 1 second longer reload.
Good luck with that 10 second reload.
Pulling stuff out of your ass already?
The SEPv2 is arguably better than the M1A2T in the current meta, maybe actually get some top tier vehicles and get good at the game before making these claims.
That is clearly why most people in top tier tournaments use the Abrams instead of T-80s.
Instantly falls flat when the enemy tank has 2 braincells.
Lmao.
Better shell.
Wasn’t really an issue tbh. Near all engagements ended in the first shot.
And the Merkava is arguably the best toptier MBT.
You mean ultra tryhards playing (basically) a completely different game?
Or, y’know, the T-80 is moving, or is hulldown, or . . . is in pretty much any situation that isn’t just sitting stationary point blank.
Bear in mind, someone fighting a T-80 needs to shoot a very small area to maybe deal damage. Someone fighting an Abrams can literally shoot the tracks and end up destroying the horizontal drive and engine (I did that before the turret basket btw).
Same goes for the Abrams if the Abrams player has 1-2 braincells.
You have yet to actually give a reason that the M1A2T is better than the US SEPs. Show me what you pulled out of your ass.
The extra smoke grenades that the SEPv2 gets are great in this meta with a lot of IR guided weapons.
Still easily penetrated and one shot in all of these scenarios for any self respecting player.
You consider yourself a decent player, but you seem to struggle so much against T-80s. So maybe you are overestimating yourself?
I’m glad we agree the reload time isn’t the end all be all that some seem to think it is.
Unless you die first, which you probably will since larger weakspots.
Idk who’s struggling against T-80s, aside from maybe you. Everything I have to say about T-80 is from playing it.
You are calling the Abrams bad and worse than the T-80s.
I’m not the one with the negative stats in the Abrams and that thinks that their 1.1 K/D in the T 80 U is “respectable” lol. So clearly you are struggling with or against something.
Yes, because it is. I’ve played and fought both. T-80 is both better when playing, and better when fighting,
