Maybe the ariete, but everything else needed to go up.
I’ve been playing the 2A4 and it’s honestly fine.
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Partly because it did go up before every one else, its just annoying, not insane unless you play arcade.
Honestly it’s really weird seeing threads about M1s and 2A4s needing a buff, it’s like someone demands 2A7, 122+ or BVM to get buffed lmao.
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the m1 abrams never fired M735 , M60s used that round.
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Its crazy how US mains are fighting so hard to get the M1s buffed when they genuinely don’t need it(nor does the 2A4)
The M1 is a great tank, and I’d say equal to the 2A4. They have trade offs, where something like the ariete is just worst in every way.
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Sometimes I wonder if they want balance or just a seal clubbing machine(s).
It’s still too low though. Especially when they already have the most developed and capable line of SPAAs with very little gap in capability, and top it off with a premium light tank that outperforms most other nations high end SPAAs, and isn’t hampered by limited AP ammo.
Either it should be higher, or the other SPAA/AD vehicles that are less capable should be lower.
You can usually tell what they want by their stats if they only play one nation or just suck in general they just want handholding
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You can add Console player, if you want too.
In this situation, a team issue and a light recon tank cancer rushing for the spawn directly.
You can laugh about the mode I choose and play, but you can’t change the facts in that case. Specially you have never touch and play the 9.3 BR for Israel…
doesnt matter what nation, you are playing arcade. If you are being spawn exterminated at 9.3 you and your team has done something wrong, or simply ignored the map altogether. besides 9.3 israel is nothing but pattons and merkavas, there’s nothing unique about it, its essentially a copy of the U.S Tech tree with small era additions.
USA mains: “we don’t care about vehicles we don’t even play like why should we? Ariete? haha sucks to be Italian, 7.1 seconds reload? blame ruskies for their incompetence in designing their autoloading module! British suffers? who asked you to play them, your fault! Please buff our turret ring area protection and give us better ammunition, 5 seconds reload is useless, T-72AV should go to 11.0 and HSTVL should go down to 10.3 because 2S38 is better, hehe”
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no one has said this other than you, a russian main.
I think Otomatic can make it down to 11.0, but 2S38’s primary issue in GRB is to find the enemy, same with Strela, they are great but lacking radar is suboptimal for RB, maybe get them 10.7 for GAB cause there is 0% chance you make it past either of them
So sure on your opinion, I see.
You argue playing different nations doesn’t matter ? You’re lack of experience with them and their awful stock modifications. Try a Israels’s M48 or a M60 lacking of mobility and use HEAT-FS against a Leopard 2A4, be my guest.
Playing Arcade, it’s a skill issue according to your opinion. Sorry for you, I will not go on this field and not attack players for their tastes of a game mode. Each one appreciate War Thunder for one specific aspect, arcade is a part like the rest.
Again, you have your certitudes. On PS4, you have a delay for some random battles. So what happened ? 40 seconds delay before spawning on the map and do something. Enough to be smash.
This decompression is a welcome one for me.
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You argue playing different nations doesn’t matter ? You’re lack of experience with them and their awful stock modifications.
[/quote] YOU PLAY ARCADE, STOP
Are you dumb? the Israeli M60S have better armor than the U.S M60s better ERA, better APFSDS than a majority of the M60s, COMPOSITE ARMOR , a Laser warning system, and why are you complaining about stock vehicles? everyone plays a stock vehicle when they first unlock it, you’re not special you suffer like everyone else.
YOU ARE PLAYING WARTHUNDER ON A CONSOLE. A PS4, my guy get with the times, get a ps5 or a low end p.c that has better hardware than a PS4 from over a decade ago. Over here complaining because you cant afford something new.
the otomatic shouldnt even be over 10.0 every single FV with proxy rounds is better than the otomatic the otomatic i a giant box, that can’t even fire enough round to shoot down 3 planes.
Still, 75mm, radar and 350 pen apfsds, more or less an 11.0 vehicle, 2S38which lacks much of its stuff is 10.3, on top of higher spawn point cause Otomatic is obviously SPAA
Insulting and thinking you’re the guy knowing this game better than anyone. I see what kind of discussion you want, but no thank you. I’m here for discussion and argumentation, not insulting.
So a Xbox, a PlayStation or any user not playing War Thunder on a PC build/sold in October 2024 are dumb, poor or whatever based on your opinion ? Very kind set of mind you have. You know I don’t think about for my “own” plateform but for everyone want to play this game in good conditions. The PS4 Pro can run good games even today, but War Thunder is not using is full potential on it.
Have you play the Magach 6B Gal (M60) or even touch the Israel tech tree in 9.3 facing the Pz.Btl.123 or the TURM-S ? Of course no.
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350 pen does nothing at the BR the otomatic is at. the radar is the only thing the 2s38 doesn’t have, everything else the 2s38 excel at shooting down planes better than the otomatic