- Decrease B.r of listed SPAA
- Don’t change anything
- Other
After playing quite a lot past weeks at 11.0-11.3 B.r for both USSR and USA side I’ve noticed a huge disadvantage for non USSR team in terms of available SPAA. I was mainly playing CAS so I want to share some of my experience of fighting AA’s of the both sides(USSR and non USSR).
In this topic I won’t suggest increasing USSR SPAA’s B.r as it’s still possible do to well against them if with enough effort, I would rather strongly suggest to lower B.r for many underperforming non USSR SPAA’s to close the big gap we have here between Roland’s/Stingers and some actually effective SPAA’s.
While playing Su-25T, Su-24M or Ka-50 main threat for you are mainly Roland’s and Stingers that are both limited a lot in range and capability to intercept munition fired at them.
At the same time on the USSR side you have 2S6, Osa’s and Strela, first two can easily deal with any munition you fire at them as they have 6-8 missiles ready to fire that are also much better than Roland ones.
NATO side SPAA even at 11.3 mostly consists of Lav-ad that have close to 0 ability to shot down missiles or Roland’s that have only 2 missiles that are nowhere enough to deal with Su-39 and their Kh-29T or any other attackers of this B.r, after all these two are 10.0 SPAA and really shouldn’t even be used at 11.0+.
Playing with USSR CAS i have no problem making 6-10 kills by a plane/heli per game, while on US side I’m lucky to get 3-4 tanks with F-4E or MH-60 as you have to waste a ton of time to kill something like 2S6 and they’re wont let you fly around close to them killing tanks like you can do with Roland’s or Stingers. AGM-65’s are too slow and easy to intercept for them, they are nowhere near as good as Kh-29T at dealing with your problems.
The problem with lack of any good SPAA’s at this B.r should be solved by decreasing B.r of all the underperforming SPAA’s, they don’t belong at such a high B.r , especially if we look at something like 2S6 that sits at 10.7
US/UK ADATS
11.7 → 11.3
There is no reason it sits a whole 1.0 B.r higher than 2S6. Su-25T can definitely deal with ADATS, it won’t be harder for it than for F-4E to deal with 2S6. It’s a much more worthy opponent for the CAS of this B.r than some Roland’s.
FlaRakRad
11.7 → 11.3
Its only advantage is somewhat good missiles but having only 2 of them ready and bad radar make it very difficult to defend yourself from something like Kh-29T - at least it shouldn’t allow the planes flying straight at you to dodge it with simple maneuver like it can be done with Roland or Stinger.
Type-81C
11.7 → 11.0
Has no way to defend itself, if plane spots you first - you’re dead, it’s just a better Strela, having no radar makes it really bad at this B.r against all the long range CAS that live here. After plane contrails where basically removed(moved to 9km+ Alt) spotting plane at distance can be a very difficult task.
ITO-90M
12.0 → 11.7
It makes no sense that it sits at the same BR as S1, it has a very weak radar, no guns, worse missiles.
It should fight Ka-50’s and Su-39’s.
Elde 98
12.0 → 11.7
Very limited ammo, missile range makes you wish for more, it’s definitely not a very difficult enemy to deal with.
In the end I’ll say that I would’ve put most of this even to 11.0 but than the chances that Gaijin will ever implement it will be close to 0.
Main goal of this change’s is that we should have some actually effective and playable SPAA’s at 11.3, as current situation of 2S6 vs Roland’s makes no sense.
