Light fighters are losing ground and perhaps in the not so distant future they will completely lose their roles

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With the new eurofighter, rafale, f15E/I and buff fighters on su27sm, fighters like F16, Gripen, J10, jf17, mig29smt and mirage 2k5f have practically disappeared from the matchs on top tier.
The Mirage and the J10A are less affected by their number of misses, but they are still affected, but nothing compared to fighters like the F16 and the Gripen.

There is simply no more reason to use light fighters, since fighters like the Eurofighter and Rafale perform the same functions with similar maneuverability while carrying many more missiles and countermeasures.
Future prospects only make this scenario even worse.

With the Su30, F18 in the very near future and their most advanced versions, with Chinese, Russian and Indian Flanker family aircraft carrying more and more missiles and still being extremely maneuverable, F15 and F18 in their most updated versions also carrying more missiles and maintaining their maneuverability, with Eurofighter and Rafales of more advanced versions too, the question arises; “where is the function of light fighters?”
When and where do fighters like the J10, F16, Tejas and JF17 fit into the game, with the arrival of increasingly larger and more powerful fighters,;what will their function be?
This need to be reworked!

I don’t see anything else coming out other than an Air Rb EC mode with spawn points similar to GB, and with light fighters playing roles similar to light tanks in GB.
Because otherwise we have no reason or incentive to use these fighters more in the game.(neither the versions we currently have nor the future ones).
Whatever the future of these fighters, it’s something that Gaijin needs to decide or fix quickly, because just changing from the Firebird update to the Storm Warning was enough to make the fighters light, practically obsolete and almost disappear with them and their function.

Pls gaijin/bvvd and community, let’s pay attention to this topic and suggest ideas and solutions to save this role, light fighters are fun and it’s a role that can’t simply disappear and have no function in the game, it would be a huge waste.

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Battle ratings still exist. If they can’t compete as well, they end up at lower BR’s.

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I’d rather the top BR move up, than planes move down.

Currently high tier is just very compressed.

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I didn’t say move them down, I meant lower BR’s than the heavy fighters, not lower than the light fighters are currently.

At the moment, the light fighters are still in an excellent place. As heavy fighters get added that are more powerful, those will move up to higher BR’s.

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GUYS WHAT HAPPENDED TO TANKS IS HAPPENDING TO AIRCRAFT GUYS LOOK, Expected since avionics and all things that make aircraft more mauverble like better engines for tanks happending to aircraft leading into some sort of MBT but for aircraft

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f15C has the same br as f16C.

What puts more pressure on the BVR is a gripen with 4 fox3 or an f15 with 8, when forming a fur ball, which has more impact on the 16v16 model, mirages with 2 magic II and 6 micas or su27sm with 4x r73, 2x r27ET, and 6x r77.
All this planes still in same br range.

Now let’s talk about the future prospects of this game.

Why would you use a f16 viper block 70, you can use a superhornet?
Why would you use a mig29k or a mig35 when there is su30sm and su 35?
Why would you use a j10c or a jf17 block III when there is j16, su30mk2 and su35s?
Why use a gripen E when there are more advanced versions of the EF and the Rafale?
all have the same function, there is no trade off in these choice…just choose the biggest one

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For fun, for different BR’s, pick one.

Nothings final with current top tier BR’s, let alone future ones.

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play f16C now and see how much fun you’ll have

these planes will not be of different brs.
Gripen and f16 they are from the same br as su27sm and f15c

These planes have been in the same BR since the introduction of the Fox 3 mechanics…

0.3 or 0.7 decompression will not change this situation.
playing with gripen and f16C block 40 every match I face f15E, EF and rafales.

Maybe some new type of mechanic or feature is needed to enhance light fighters.

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Don’t have it yet, but I play other similar light fighters like the J-10A and JAS-39C and they’re still in a great spot.

Like I said, nothings final with current top tier BR’s.

No, not really.

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They need to nerf fox 3 to make light fighters more viable. Else they’re gonna suffer the “heavy tank” problem of ground forces.

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As long as I remember there is a simple rule:
For air, stay 2BR below top BR unless you like to see a bloody mess.
(For me, air RB currently ends at 12.0)

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Nah man, the Gripen is goated. One of the best fighters at top tier, can’t speak for the others however. 4 AIM120s is still very viable on an airframe like the Gripen.

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Better power output, better radar.

What reason would you choose the Super Hornet for when its most important aspects are still lackluster?

Because neither are comparable aircraft? That’s like asking why you’d use an F-4B Phantom when the F-14D exists.

J-10C is better than the Su-30MK2, JF-17 has no Chinese domestic equivalent, and the J-16 is quite possibly the most modern 4++ out there.

Why use an F-4E when the F-4J exists?

Oh, right, different roles and varying degrees of utility.

Quite literally none of them do.

Do you honestly believe a MiG-29K has the same function as the Su-35S?

Do you REALLY think the Gripen is comparable to the Rafale to ANY degree?

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goated suport

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in real life no, in the game yes

yep

within the game currently they perform exactly the same function.

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How so?

Let me guess, dey lok da saym?

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In real life, the mig29k is a multirole naval fighter, used for multiple missions, whether reconnaissance, ground attack, air superiority or anti-ship missions.
The su35 is a fighter more aimed at air superiority missions.
This is real life…
Within the game both will perform the same function, only the air superiority missions, they will only contest the air superiority.
the current model of the air rb has no functions other than fighters and bombers.

and more and more light fighters are losing space in the match because of this, playing light fighter you are restricted to supporting heavy fighters, and when there is no team left for you to support, you have no impact on the matches, and if it continues like this, light fighters will lose their impact within the game.
In real life, what makes a country opt for a light fighter or a heavy fighter is its operating cost, more than anything, the Gripen and the Rafale can perform the same missions, which makes countries like Brazil and Thailand opt for the Gripen instead of the rafale is operating costs.
the two closest mechanics we have in the game to an operational cost are the repair cost and spawn cost, changing the repair cost is not a solution, and air rb does not have multiple spawns.
Why would you opt for a light fighter if it will perform the same function as a heavy fighter?
What is the incentive for you to choose light hunting if you are going to have less impact within the matc, and you will still be at the mercy of performance and your time

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nah fam, the gripen is broken. BY FAR the best plane

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One day it was, now it is support.

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Thats simply how it always was going to go. Light fighters are cheaper less effective aircraft. They arent meant to compete e with the air supremacy busses