Let's talk about this game Gaijin

Skip past the first two paragraphs if you think it’s unnecessary.

(im not going through 6 paragraphs of text so just go to my comment at the bottom under this post)

(paragraph 4) I WANT to add: the WHOLE community we are the victims AND the assailant, the Effect and cause of what Gaijin is, was, and will become. We are and are not the cause of what Gaijin is. We are and are not the cause of what this game has become. WE ARE THE CAUSE OF OUR OPINIONS, AND THIS GAME IS THE EFFECT AND THE MIRROR OF THAT. And it is not only happening in here but out in reality because of our political and social views of the countries, not only in this game but of the world, and political parties of America. (No, this isn’t about politics; calm down, I just wanted to refer to this because it should be self-explanatory)

Also It’s not about adding random sht or being lazy or too dumbfound and make it sht; it’s about actually producing the product into what it ACTUALLY is meant to be if BOEING were to be a company which it is, and produce genuine god awful and god forbid stuff unlike the f15 or b52, etc. then america just wouldn’t be the strongest air wise, same goes for ground. And space, and this applies to the whole human race; if we were too lazy or too biased to actually do anything we’d still be in the medieval era’s ima keep it a buck with all of the employees at Gaijin.

If you read the whole thing, then you can answer the poll, not based on opinions but on facts

  • BALANCE EVERY COUNTRY (include modern tech to balance against Russia
  • leave game as it is
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  1. So, Gaijin, if you come across this, let’s talk rq. And in this whole conversation, it’s 12.0+BR for ground. It took me 13 seconds before I got pinged and then died to a Pantsir. It’s not that we need bigger maps cuz the spawns don’t change for any of them, besides moving the ground spawns 5 feet back. In my F18A, the one in the tech tree lineup, cuz I’m not a goblin nor psychopath buying all your premiums. It took 13 seconds again; people are less efficient and slower at doing the you know what than these pantsir PINGING me before I can spawn, BEFORE I CAN SPAWN. Keep in mind, those pantsirs are meant for LONG RANGE engagements, not 15km from enemy air spawn. Again, it’s not; let’s expand the map more before the players don’t even play half the maps we give them. It is EITHER giving America the Patriots and the missiles OF TODAY, just like you do with Russia.

  2. this is not about another complaint like my 5 other posts about some small things. This is one big thing; there should not be this many posts about every bug or balancing issue in the game, it is a forum, but a forum should be limited to a small count of bugs and errors, mostly filled maybe with things to add, like a Minecraft forum or any other forum.

In Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024’s forum, they have, yes, a LOT of problems and bugs BUT BUT BUT, ok? BUT, they RELEASED their game just last year, and with new graphics and a LOT of other additions to actually make that game FEEL (key word) ACTUALLY FEEL REALISTIC, because it is a flight sim and they want be as CLOSE as possible to realism, but with that comes a LOT of bugs and errors, especially with pc’s and the game itself because it IS to much to handle for the pc and game. For Minecraft, of course it is different. BUT i did NOT see a SINGLE bug or error on THEIR FORUMS about the game, the LAST problem i saw was from 2018, 8 years ago Gaijin, it was ONLY a 2 year difference, that being said, can you tell me how a game that has MULTIPLE problems on bedrock edition is still fun and actually like a stimulating experience to play yet you guys cannot figure it out and make a game that can actually not only pull people in, but play the game with enjoyment.

Before I continue and make another paragraph, I put pictures of these two forums at the bottom. If you want to see other forums, that’s up to you, but a forum sums up what the game is and the player base with their opinions of the game, etc.

Number two, Gaijin, Minecraft, and YOU have practically been out for 13-15 years. I get Minecraft is a bad example, so let’s stick wth microsoft’s flight simulators. Guess how long they’ve been out for; a hint is they’ve experienced three to FOUR generations of technology dating back to 42 YEARS AGO. They’ve experienced 42 YEARS OF TECH; you guys have experienced 2 generations of MODERN TECH, and YET it seems Microsoft’s flight simulators and Minecraft can figure things out.

Before you guys think about dismissing this. This is not just about you, but yet still a cause of your commitment to a deadly sin. Greed. You know who else committed this? Us, the people. Now, I personally haven’t bought a premium, but then again this game is(n’t) free. I have too baught golden eagles to finish a research or modification, etc., just not premiums. My friend, on the other hand, hasn’t even GRINDED a SINGLE bit of the tech tree, NO, not a SINGLE MOD, NOR PLANE OR TANK. He only plays premiums and mostly russian premiums because of your biased, probably opinion towards Russians. And he is part, yes this also includes a LOT of you, the Russian brainwashed community saying it is a NATO skill issue, if you want to experience the “NATO” skill issue go in combat in a T-90 OR even that STUPID BMPT yall warship and call “god” (first of all that’s blashpemous) against an AMERICAN M1A2 SEP v2 (or 3) comanded by an AMERICAN crew, and we’ll see who ahs the actual skill issue on the battle field, or how bout plane, go agaisnt an F15C and we’ll see who has the skill issue. One more thing about this I WANT to add: the WHOLE community (I will have probably repeated this in the beginning) we are the victims AND the assailant, the Effect and cause of what Gaijin is, was, and will become. We are and are not the cause of what Gaijin is. We are and are not the cause of what this game has become. WE ARE THE CAUSE OF OUR OPINIONS, AND THIS GAME IS THE EFFECT AND THE MIRROR OF THAT. And it is not only happening in here but out in reality because of our political and social views of the countries, not only in this game but of the world, and political parties of America.

My final and formal paragraph and summary; So Gaijin, I want to hear your thoughts, i dont want bs like or were adding this and this even though number one, i already know it’s being added and number two, It’s not about adding sh*t it’s about actually producing the product into what it ACTUALLY is meant to be (i put this at top too want to remind you guys now though).

To sum things up, Number one, fix the balancing, that’s not the major issue though, the next issue can be the cause of this balancing but first things first, copy what DCS does in terms of the aircraft and tanks performance plus the ammunition that comes along with them, to hopefully fix this, maybe do more. Second, the premiums, remember like 6-10 years ago when you said, “we do NOT want our players to buy their way to the top”? Well guess what? you tried. and it failed miserably, my firend has NO idea what nothcing, multipathing, thermals, missile properties, DRAG (yes he argues with me about what drag is and says it doesn’t exist), add things that had ACTUALLY existed, sure prototypes are fine but if something never even left the drawing board let alone someones imagination, there is ZERO need to add it because you DO NOT KNOW the properties, speed, g force, weight, etc. there was not even legal documents for this let alone classified ones.

And finally, to sum everything and EVERYTHING up, premiums suck; you said it, not me. There’s no legal confrontation of documents to use nd put random weapons in without actual classified/non-classified documents. YOUR WORDS, NOT MINE NOR OURS. And balancing is the secondary issue.

Here’s what other forums look like





and then here’s yours, its also unorganized for bugs too, so im not gonna try and dig through 1 million topics that are random and don’t fufill my argument

The forums arent for bug reports

Me when i admit to cherrypicking

I think your friend has bigger issues than warthunder giving out physics lessons would solve

So russia gets s300

Youd be surprised, we got this far arguably by being lazy and biased

Anyway, idk what your point really is because youre just rambling incoherently

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Holy wall of text. Tldr, something something bussain rias

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There has got to be a more concise and focused way to get your point across. Too may capital letters… TLDR.

Not to mention you can LFP any Russian top tier vehicle. Which is something I wish I knew sooner.

lowk i think im just gonna ignore allat, be close minded and also my firend doesn’t want to listen anyway cuz same reason

i kind of tried to make it formatted well and organized but it took me like 3 hours alr to make it and i lowk wasn’t trying on it anymore

Me when i go on the forums to discuss something and just dont

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also i tired to make it comprehensible, and I knew it was gonna be lookin like a whole scripture, but what i was tryna do was something like what codmineman said. My point was, premiums at top tier are God’s biggest joke oat. Balancing is straight horsepoop (family friendly) and making a realistic game shouldn’t be hard if a game has been out for more than 10 years, has a whole team working on it, and yet is still far from what realism is at least in my perspective (for high/top tier).

I dont think gaijin cares what your specific opinion on realism is

Being ‘realistic’ is always highly subjective on what that actually means so achieving it in everyones eyes is impossible

Idk i dont think its that much of a problem, mostly because i really dont understand where the great reverence for top tier comes from (probably gatekeeping) there are a lot of tiers to play this game at, and top tier is the worst one, so just dont play it, you can get modern vehicles at 10.7 just fine and have actual fun too

Its really not that bad, gaijin is just very slow with it because they want to make sure they do it right, even if that itself might be as big as the problems they avoid by being slow

The problem is they call their game realistic and put that narrative about their game, and while yes, it is for low to mid tier along with being fun, I can agree. no game obviously can be realistic as far as realism goes in games; nothing will ever actually match real life, but, that doesn’t mean you don’t start faking it the second you get into 10.7 or 11.0+, and even though there is classified docs, there are still public docs about performance and stuff, probably

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And you’re probably right into saying theyre slow or bad balancing but like a lot of my friends and people i talk to avoid playing this game for a multitude of reasons, one being its repetative, boring, slow paced, etc. now slow paced i mean makes sense its war but for boring and repetative, i mean even my friend swho tried playing this game are getting bored of it quicker and quicker every day because they see that you can just skipp all this and just get top tier. One of my friends if im correct stop playing this because of that, and the other friend just can’t play it because we have school and finals and a ton of tests and AP tests, and so we just don’t have the time like a jobless person does to grind 24/7 of this game

Tbf, it’s not like Gaijin does anything on the bug report website. I reported the guided munition bug over 6 months before the one that got accepted was made ( Laser guided munition tracking issue // Gaijin.net // Issues). No action occurred on my report until 2 months after I had closed it because it got fixed. I also reported the AH-1G/Tzefa visual glitch where the cockpit door support wouldn’t animate over a year before the one that was accepted was made ( Tzefa A cockpit visual bug with mounting rod // Gaijin.net // Issues). Didn’t get action until I literally ranted on the one that got accepted of how I literally had reported this so long ago and it, for some reason, never got action.

Currently, I still have the OH-58D lacking the PDU (effectively the HUD system) even though it’s modeled in the 3D model ( Gaijin.net // Issues), the AH-1G is lacking the M28A1 combo turret option even though it’s in the release trailer for helicopters and is in the DEV blog for them ( AH-1G lacking M-28A1 turret subsystem combo choice // Gaijin.net // Issues) and the M3A3 Bradley has a glitch where the STANAG is providing less protection than it should ( M3A3 Bradley hull STANAG armor is bugged // Gaijin.net // Issues) and none of these got any action. But don’t worry, a report giving the F/A-18 E/F a toilet bomb and a report to give the XM975 a stinger pod got accepted immediately ( New Mounting Options for the F/A-18E/F // Gaijin.net // Issues/ XM975 Missing historical Stinger missile option // Gaijin.net // Issues).

Then, my report to give the AH-1G a rocket sight option for the pilot (because it has one for every other weapon system BUT the pilot’s primary weapon system) gets denied with it needs to go to the suggestion tab in the forums ( AH-1G platform lacking FFAR sight inside cockpit // Gaijin.net // Issues) and that the pilot lacks vertical turret control with “There is no such mechanics in the game. If you have suggestions for the game, you can submit them on the forum” with them quoting how the turret returns to the stowed position… I’m not even exaggerating as that’s exactly what the dang turret does when you go into the pilot’s POV in game RIGHT NOW ( AH-1G pilot lacking turret control // Gaijin.net // Issues). Biggest kicker is I reached out to the suggestion moderators and they told it that it doesn’t go into the suggestion tab as it isn’t a new vehicle or TT (as that’s what the tab is for)…

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thanks, aint reading allat

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ha, you’ll get a kicker out of this. Made this report on how the T-72 commander’s hatch isn’t modeled properly ( T-72 series missing commander’s copula armor // Gaijin.net // Issues). Got told “not a bug report”… Literally, how is it not? Decided to remake it again this week ( T-72 series have improper 3D armor model for commander’s hatch // Gaijin.net // Issues) so we’ll see if anything happens (probably not). This time though, I added it as public screenshots so now everybody can see how wrong it is

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and that’s also a problem because either they’re closed-minded or maybe just arent trained well but then again i cant just jump to conclusions abt these mods and devs since I don’t know their beliefs and whatnot. I feel they make it clear they favor some nations at top tier (specific nations👀👀👀👀) or it’s something else. Whatever it is (probably greed) it’s making a lot of the player base turn on them for small things like the problems youre having with these mods

Honestly i dont really blame the bug report managers 90% of “bug reports” are utterly worthless junk hence why the best way to get them looked at is message all the tech mods or smin on the forums

The biggest mistake most people make is seeing top tier as an end goal, i just play to have fun and i have a great time

Me if i took whatever i read in an advertisement at face value

They actually dont fake it and thats half the problem, there was a 3000 message thread before we got them to increase the abrams sepv3 armour by 50mm KE,

they make the minimum possible assumption when they dont have concrete data to back them up

Also its only at like 12.0+ for ground and 14.0+ for air where its a ‘common’ issue

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Honestly i dont really blame the bug report managers 90% of “bug reports” are utterly worthless junk hence why the best way to get them looked at is message all the tech mods or smin on the forums

I mean, not wrong. But when the bad reports are getting closed (as they should) and most legit bug reports are just blatantly ignored or denied with false reason, there’s more to it than that. And been trying to. Going on day 5 of waiting for a response :T Hopefully I get something going because the last time I reached out to the MODs it didn’t go well (it was about Wolfman giving me a year long chat ban. Dude literally made up rules via the old TOS that was like 3 years out of date and even Gaijin support agreed he was in the wrong. Orson just ignored what Gaijin stated and maintained the ban. Wild to me that Wolfman is still somehow a Game Master after multiple reports of him doing stuff like that).

i lowk want to add on this because it seems even their systems are flagging this bs gameplay mech that pantsirs have AND it woint let me create that post, dont know why maybe cuz a post like that exist already, or cuz of the tech supprt, idk.

What even is the technical support link taking you to? That’s the purpose of the bug report website (though tbh, that report is very lacking as to what the issue is. Are they pinging you through terrain and forests and shouldn’t be? Realistically, getting pinged from far out is realistic. It’s just that your RWR is detecting the energy emission as it falls within a specific energy band and frequency/patter. Now the question is does the radar have a return emission that’s strong enough for a track/lock)

it took less than 10 seconds for the missile to reach me, and fun fact: when i checked the replay, the missile was already airborne going towards me before i even spawned, and yes i was 50%covered by terrain