Maybe make a thread about them? i don’t see whats Ariete,challenger,Merkavas gotta do with this topic.
You mentioned the Abrams not being good compared to other top tier MBTs, which is untrue. It is fair to bring them up, when you were the first one to do so.
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Forgot to add what MBTs, it’s BVM, 2A7, B+, and another Italian 2a7.
A short cut “Top Three”
Huh? Read what you wrote.
I was replying to that. The Abrams can hold a candle to other top tier mbts because there are so many worse top tier mbts. It isn’t bad by any stretch of the imagination. I was simply mentioning that compared to other top tier mbts it’s pretty good. At the very worst it’s alright.
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Compared to the ones i mentioned above its bad, compared to Ariete, Merkavas, Challengers, it’s good, but yeah mostly its against the TOP THREE.
Shoulda mentioned that instead of saying the all top tier mbts. Also of course there is always going to be a worst out of the best as well. I am going to say skill issue mate.
US mains be like “yeah I know our tank is better than most top tier MBTs but it isn’t THE best tank in the game so we need buffs now”
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“Compared to every other tank besides the leopard and strv its good”
“Abrams is bad”
You literally just want it to be number one but even then you’d still complain
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i didn’t mention “all” at all, i said “other” which is a big difference.
Oh right other as in all non Abrams tanks. Super specific isn’t it? Changes so much doesn’t it? /s
yeah pretty close, other than anything non-american lmao
So wait you are complaining I mentioned non American top tier mbts? What? Because I never compared the Abrams to an Abrams only non-Abrams to the Abrams. I am so confused rn.
The BVM is a tank that the M1A2 SEP is easily on par with, as the Abrams has far, far better firepower with a considerably better shell and a faster reload. Additionally, the Abrams features great gun depression and reverse speeds, with a smaller breech than the BVM, with both having impenetrable cheeks (which the Abrams can use more effectively than the BVM due to its gun depression).
The BVM only features better hull armor and survivability (arguably).
And the BVM will only be getting nerfed with the modelling of the autoloader.
I personally would also rather use the M1A2 than the BVM, and it’s clearly very close.
So the Abrams isn’t decidedly “better” than the BVM. I think most good players would agree.
And that only leaves you with… three Leopard 2s. Two 2A7s and the Swedish Strv122B+. Essentially the same tank with very similar performance. And a NATO tank. Also the best tank in the game.
So you’re complaining… That the Abrams is ONLY the 2nd best tank in the game… Sharing the spot with the BVM…
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How’s this gotta do with anything i said on the topic? i compared the abrams to other TOP TIER MBTs that control TOP TIER at this time, which they’re known.
You said TOP TIER MBTS which includes every nations top mbt. Not just Sweden, USSR, and Germany.
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So, you’re criticizing the Abrams past 10.3 and calling for buffs in general for the US tree? Interesting, especially considering your limited to nonexistent exposure to other nations at top tier, apart from some USSR squadron and event vehicles.
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How is what I said off-topic? It’s directly talking about the Abrams and its relation to other top tier tanks…
Unlike what you were doing in my thread…
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I pointed out how @Lolman345 said something that’s really helping your topic but he got ganged on for literally no reason.
I don’t care about other threads.
I would like it if you responded to what I said right here, about the Abrams in this thread:
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I didn’t criticize anything, it obvious how its useless past 11.0 which i didn’t say that statement, other people did that actually grinded the US tech tree and said it.