Just an FYI to my fellow German air players, you can no longer launch the agm65b on the f-4f going over mach since kings of battle. Idk its a bug or what but I’ve pinged smin about it.
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I was gonna test F-4E but I saw this last night so I forgot when sleeping.
I swear to God i hate this guy.
This and also Maverick damage by his logic are “work as intended”
i mean seriously is this guy even know how the game going?
I dont know much about the E50, what would it bring to the table? Im imagining a much better Panther 2 if @AlvisWisla suggests 7.3-7.7.
Now the Panther 2 is at 7.0, and the E50 has a greater thickness of frontal armor with a greater slope with greater side protection with better turret armor, I think only that what I have listed is enough to be at 7.3-7.7
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right, forgot they moved the Panther 2 up.
Same 88mm gun?
Obviously what would be ideal would be to have something at 6.7, since in full uptiers, a lineup stacked with so many heavy vehicles is a critical weakness. Really only LeK and JPz 4-5 are suitable to being uptiered. Unfortunately there is no likely candidate to fill that slot that I can possibly think of, so anything that can go into 7.0 or 7.3 would still be welcome (especially since I suspect Tiger II is about to become 7.0 anyway). And yes, 7.7 is a candidate as well, which is where the German Patton is.
Even though I play 7.7 quite a fair bit because of the Maus, I try not to use that tank anyway. If I wanted to play M48s I would play the American tree. So even at 7.7, I would play a more distinct and “flavour” option over the M48 every single time.
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As far as I’m aware, nothing definitive is known about its armament. It’s problematic to sort between genuine research, informed speculation, and stuff that was outright made up by people, but I think the only reliable info to be found on E-50 and E-75 concerns their drive train and hulls. If I’m wrong, I welcome correction ofc.
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Well, the best thing for 6.7 is the 75mm Panther II which would be an excellent 6.3 - 6.7 medium tank for Germany.
I am honestly not sure I would trust my ability to competently use the same old KwK42 against the sorts of targets you can expect to meet in a 7.7 match, man. Maybe that’s just my skill issue, but if I felt comfortable in using that gun against IS-3/4M/6, T32E1 etc, I would uptier the Panther F in my 6.7 lineup anyway - yes, it would have very little survivability, but that’s normal in a full uptier, it’s why you take “BR agnostic” light vehicles like the LeK into a full uptier.
With the BRs as they currently stand, I suspect the real Panther II would be 6.3. That extra 20mm of armour is nice, but at a HEAT-populated BR, it’s unlikely to make a meaningful performance difference I think.
The issue is that for whatever reason Gajin added the TOW to ammo selection, which is entirely useless when you only got the choice between base TOW and I-TOW
Might be because they’re going to add hot as an option.
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Makes sense.
It would make its atgms a little more viable at its extremely high br (compared to release).
Since Hot 2 is fully backwards compatible with previous versions of the launcher, it could get hot 2 and have 900mm of pen.
Germany high teir is a forgotten dumpsterfire. I left germany for china which is jsut blatantly better. The pso with less armor than a5 after 3 years of waiting was the last straw for me. The air tree is also just soviet hand me downs, nothing interesting or domestic in the slightest. I am also expecting eurofighter to get the f16 treatment and not really be anything germany exclusive. All in all germany is on the backburner and i dont see it getting any better
Huh absolutely not. Composite screens are much less likely to cause questionable results when hit than ERA
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Leopard prototype with a 90m gun would be a great option for 7.3. Ru251 is 7.3 aswell and the leo prototype would probably be similar
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It would probably be 6.3. It has all the disadvantages of the panthers with just extra hull armor, which isn’t really needed. The extra weight seems to be compensated with a better engine but hp/ton is similar.
A better tank would be the panther F with the pseudo stabilizer. The gunner sight was stabilized and the gun would only shoot if the sight and gun aligned (pre-ignition device). Some french tank had it aswell iirc. So adding such a feature wouldn’t be a waste.
Source: https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/germany/panther-ausf-f.php
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I can get behind that. Was the F model the only one that had a stabilized sight?
I think only the panther F with only 2 prototype turrets