Thats because you constantly label yourself as a kind of pro player know it all, you speak of skills etc that the average player simple doesnt have and the games needs to be more balanced to the average. It is the same for your mig29 opinion, the weight difference is so small the average player cant use it, but your continued saying how op it is. Pantsir vs VT-1, the Pantsir for the average player is simply better the radar+cannons give simply more protection combined then any other SPAA. 2S38 vs otomatic vs Hsvtl. The 2S38 is a huge problem with its combination of SPAA capabilities lws, unmanned turret and so on. Ka-50 vikhers vs apaches etc . Vikhers being able to counther SPAA missles while hellfire targeting/approach is broken. You have so many opinions because of your know it all ,i am pro player attitude that you completly forget the perspective of the average mass of the game. Thats why most people dont like you either, because you constantly play yourself up that you know it better then everyone else, while a bigger part of the community shares their opinion on the matter and you just completly stamp it as wrong
No, I’ve never once in my life claimed to be “pro”; nor have I ever claimed to “know it all”.
To reiterate my statements: I am not a pro; while I’ve been an information broker in my past, and love to collect information, I cannot ever know it all about anything as I am man.
I will repeat correct information compiled by others added to my collection until an update ruins that information.
I’ve cited people more skilled than I as well as people with more knowledge on many subjects than I.
I never once claimed Mig-29 was OP. Nor did I claim the weight difference was significant.
Pantsir vs VT-1 I’ve shared no opinion on at this time.
2S38 being multi-role is no different to M1A2 being multi-role. M1A2 isn’t a 12.0 just cause it can fire a fused round while other 11.7s cannot.
And Ka-50 doesn’t have the observation & optic equipment of Apaches, this fact doesn’t change just cause there’s a faster longer-range TOW 2 with a proxy fuse attached to the Ka-50.
I have few opinions, there are ten-thousands of aspects in this game. I physically cannot address them all, let alone half. Most of my statements are from others, or just general statements of fact I’ve come across.
And as I stated previously I do not have the attitude you claim.
I in-fact read & listen to everyones’ perspectives, and take into account multiple perspectives constantly.
The fact you seem to have thought anyone can know it all is an insult, no one can know it all.
Apologies that you ended up with entirely incorrect information about me.
This seemingly pretty official brochure seems to imply that the bagel had no AP ammo for its main gun and its only anti tank armanent was the atgm launcher. With its prinary roll being as an SPAA.
Ive also found info stating that the l60 shells are incompatible with the l70 on the bagel due to the l60 shells being precussion primers and l70 shells being electronic primers.
This would imply that the bagel in game would need to have its ap shells removed.
There is also sadly AFAIK no such thing as the mythical bofors 57mm APFSDS.
I’m getting the rope
Obviously i wouldnt dare bug report it. And obviously gaijin wouldnt go and do such a thing. (Hopefully)
but where dose it imply that it dosnt have an AP round?
nvm mind i read the text below now XD
This weapon mix makes it possible to engage all targets on the battlefield. In reference to the sentence prior where it mentions the 57mm anti air gun and anti tank launcher.
And that combined with all the other info ive found on the bofors 57 variants and their ammo all seem to state that no AP ammo was made for the l70. As it is a ship cannon.
no it says shhip gun as its a dual use gun on ships
also i found this (yeea from wiki i will look more into it
The baseline version of the new gun, later known as the Mark 1, used a cartridge with the same case-length as the cartridge on the 57 mm Naval Automatic Gun L/60 (57 mm x 438 mm) but with a new shape and propellant, giving it an increased velocity of 1,025 m/s (3,360 ft/s), compared to 890 m/s (2,900 ft/s) on the L/60 cartridge.
Ok so it looks like the only the primer is changed and they run a hotter load.
The case “stays” the same aswell as the round so its all good
Which is where the incompatitbility comes in. Not to mention in the site you linked to it states that the navy was not happy with the m50c l60 as it still owed its origin to the ground based l60.
And dual use ship cannon means for baval and air targets as stated in the brochures for the bofors 57 l70. Not naval and ground.
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40mm? Not 57mm?
nvm i f up
There is no information that they shoved a bunch of electronic primers in l60 shells so they could be fired out of the bagel.
they dont need to they just make new rounds with the electric primer
mate u can use a naval gun to shoot ground units???
Once again there is no evidence of this being done. And again from the official brochure it describes the role of the bagels 57mm as useful against both armored and unarmored attack helicopters.
It mentions nowhere in any source ive read that the bagels 57mm was intended for anti tank use.
Sounds more to me u just dont like it and grasp at straws
This does not imply the usage of AP shells for that use. Because they would use HE as it does way more damage in that role.
Also again the official brochure for the bofors 57mm describes their use as anti ship and anti air as a CIWS role.
That reminds me, have you guys found any sources of the Bagel having an EWS for helicopters?