Lets talk about the state of Germany

And in this king of battle update gaijin doesn’t even bother to give Germany anything new or useful
They give us the m-109 with a mg not a 50cal
The mig-29g at 12.3 that most people don’t play
They nerd most of our tank
This is from 2000h German main fku gaijin fku🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕

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the best mig 29 currently in game

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Take your mouth off of the crack pipe you’re smoking and look alive.

  1. This is the smallest update of the year, which makes complete sense, seeing as the Sons Of Atilla update dropped just back in September. Consider it like an update shipped in 2 parts. The december update will be the biggest of the year, and will undoubtedly have truly “new” vehicles for many nations, Germany included (supposedly we’re expecting new leopards, per Smin)

  2. The MiG 29G is currently the most powerful MiG in game, with the 9.12s performance and the SMTs modern missiles. It sucks that it took a whole new plane just to get here, despite the 9.12 having access to r73s, but it is what it is.
    And with the addition of a RP boost for skilled playing, you can grind it fairly quick.

  3. You can’t blame Gaijin for giving the M109G a 7.62mm instead of a .50 cal. That’s just what it was fitted with.

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Well, most powerful is an exaggeration. It is certainly the best dogfighter out of all MiG-29s currently, but it’s still at the same BVR capability level as 9.12A and 9.13A, i.e inferior to the SMT.

SMT also has more CMs and an actual ground load-out, so it’s more universal.

If you value radar capability and ground capability as well as sustainability, SMT is certainly the best. If you value dogfighting capability then 29G is the best. Both of those statements are subjective though, as people value different things more than another.

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Somebody can tell me when was December update last years?

point taken

it dropped on the 20th of December

Made that:

As a conter of freccia and vbci

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Thanks for support, guys !

The worst part imo is that F-4F Early and MiG-23M are event vehicles and were introduced before the actual tech tree vehicle which then ended up being worse than the already implemented US and Russian examples on top.

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Well yes this update was meant to be small but we still didnt ask for, want, or need an m109. Weve been asking for the pnzh 2000 for many years now. Ever since the type 75sph got added.

And ive learned after the abuse germany has recieved over the years to not trust gaijin. New leopard could just mean a tech tree leo 2sg copy of the leo 2pl. Or the addition of dm33 to the 2a4
c-tech moving it to 10.7 and the re-adding of the b-tech armor version at 10.0.

Cause if you remember they changed the b-tech armor on the 2a4 to c-tech once the 2a5 was added.
It previously had what 400mm of turet armor?

But honestly id be surprised if it was an actual usable leo 2. Like maybe one that could compete with the balanced strv 122bs. Or one with decent thermals. Or literally anything worthwhile.

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i wouldnt give up that quickly, they clearly stated it as an upgrade over the currently existing 2a5/2a6 variant with the introduction of the PSO

Before I was saying that the PzH2000 was to advanced for WT, but the Auf1 and VIDAR make it seem like it’s an equivalent compared to other tech trees. Hopefully the M109 is just a stop gap rather then a “good enough” solution.

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depending on it the PzH2000 might be worse, since it is quite a bit bigger isnt it

PZH would be about equal to or even better than VIDAR if you ask me, which the VIDAR should definitely go to 9.0+ already.

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I don’t see a reason why VIDAR should be fighting 9.0+ vehicles that have LRFs, thermals, darts, mobility, etc.
This would kill only advantage VIDAR has, which is LRF and thermals.

Honestly smt is better for air rb because of the rwr alone. the lack of situational awareness you get from the spo-15 will 100% get you killed. Mig29g is only better in dogfights and really only 1v1.

VIDAR still performs well when taken into higher BRs, so I see no issue in taking it out of a BR where it’s dominant

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Let’s not fool ourselves.
A PzH 2000 in the game would mean a BR of at least 12.0.
Regardless of how big she is, she would simply wipe everything off the battlefield with just one shot.
No amount of armor will help, because all that’s left is a crater.
Gaijin couldn’t do any worse because there are no bad shells for this vehicle.
Then the next problem is that the PzH2000 is a semi autoloader that can fire every few seconds and is also highly mobile.

Unless they implement the simultaneous 3 round burst, it would be firing every 10 seconds on average.

The VIDAR has that same function but they didn’t implement it.