Lets talk about the state of Germany

what does it… say?

That you are a player who fights almost exclusively in the low tier.
That wouldn’t be so bad, but you refer to others as Moron who already play more in Hightier BR and know what they’re talking about.
I mean, you have over 20 thousand battles and you can’t actually get past rank 3.
You may be good at the lower levels, but what about when battles become dynamic and you can no longer camp in the corner?

High tier is Notorious for being garbage. most WT players think and agree that about 7.0 and below is the best ranges to play in… of which… i agree

You havnt proved a single thing by trying to “diss” me or anything of that nature… Not a single thing

Love you too.

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The problem is that the higher the BR goes, the more cheaters there are and that makes the whole thing broken.
Gaijin boasts that they always block a certain amount of cheaters, but that is only a small percentage.

Have you ever thought about the fact that I didn’t mean to “diss” you?
I even praised you for being good at the ranks you’re in.
I just don’t think it’s appropriate to call others “Moron” when they talk about problems that are a few BR levels above what you drive.
Yesterday it was perhaps a little late and the words were not chosen quite as carefully, so I would like to apologize for that.

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Thanks buddy, I appreciate your opinion.
Speaking of stat cards, I think your words are quite interesting and funny at the same time, when considered they come from a guy that can’t get his K/D over 1.0 in any vehicle, regardless of nation.

First of all, good job at proclaiming BVM as the best tank in the game while having exactly zero (0) games in it.

Second of all, let’s talk about 2A4. Seems to me your awful understanding of the game is quite obvious from the fact you totally forgot Sweden has two identical 2A4s as Germany, and of course, forgot to check my stats for them. Let me do your due diligence, you don’t need to thank me though.
Stats from my three 2A4s combined:

  • 567 battles in total
  • 1198 kills
  • 63% WR
  • 3.01 K/D
  • 2.1 K/B

Looks like my stats are more than enough evidence to prove 2A4s can be used pretty effectively in that BR range.
You started “stat shaming” first so I will follow your example. Looks like to me your stats make each and every vehicle borderline unplayable, quite funny considering you are a premium lover.

I mean, how did you manage to get <1 K/D in 2S38 and TURMS, what’s the matter there buddy, can’t you farm all those godawfully useless Leopard 2s with ease ?

Difference between you and me is pretty simple, I can back up my claims with hard stats from playing the game, while on the other hand, you seem to talk out of your ass, performing equally bad in vehicles from both sides, but yet here you are complaining how a perfectly fine tank is somehow bad, probably just because it’s from a nation you sympathize.

Seriously, what has CAS to do in a discussion about 2A4s ?
It looks like you are grasping at straws, trying to derail the discussion after you have nothing else meaningful to say, just like a true NPC would do.

By the way, looking at your heli stats and that juicy 0.15 K/D with Ka-50 is more than enough to convince me not only Ka-50, but other helis as well, are complete and utter garbage. You saved me a bit of time researching those, thank you.

PS: YT tutorials on how to get better in WT are just one click away

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You don’t and they aren’t, it’s just a pretty common cope mechanism.

That’s why you proclaimed BVM to be the best tank in the game with authority, while not even played a single game in it.
LOL.

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Hello, it is I, Peter Griffin. With my authority relying on having spaded the T-80BVM, here’s my 2 cents;

  • it’s the least skill dependant MBT at top tier
  • it fits meta the best

There are tanks that fit certain situations better, but damn me, BVM can perform well in almost any situation, the only times I’ve found myself not liking it was on very hill heavy maps with steep slopes, but other than that it’s IMO the most versatile MBT at top tier.

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Then lets put it this way: what are the most dominant tank engagement distances ingame? What are the dominant sizes of maps, their playstyles and modes? What was the designphilosophy of german tanks? To answer them for you: less than 500m, small urban clusterduck maps made for highly mobile brawlers to cap a point, they were made for long distance engagements where they could effectively angle and use their armor.

Lets see Firearc, one of the good maps where german tanks could be utilized has been moved to BR 6,7+, out of 73 maps 68 are made for brawling playstyles. Which nations have the most effective tanks that excell for said maps and styles? US and RU.

The hypocrisy of the community is more amusing from year to year, when there were more long range maps it was Germany OP, now that everything has been changed to knifefight distance suddenly its German players bad.

In your own words if I want to take a short expedition to the air tree, US planes are notoriously undertiered because their players constantly underperform verifiable made by the balance changes.

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Hah!! it didn’t even need skills to play BVM hell maybe entire Russian TT
when Gaijin handheld them so much.
remember Get pen by DM53 they got BVM shortly after
Get bomb to the ground by Harrier GR7 they got pantsir
and what German and other got?
sidegarde 2A5 and france sidegarde Leclerc S2
fighting with document any many more to get frontal armor for PSO and how it turned out? nothing

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The type10 the best toptier tank and the cv90120 just very skillbased

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That’s cause most people with the knowledge [skill] to shoot idler wheels are on your team as a Soviet player.
Otherwise it’d be just as “weak” as everyone else in CQC.

T-80BVM 365battles is zero ok, tell me more.

moto

Yes that is correct.
But it was probably because I made the same mistake as many other players.
Bought premium tanks and made all the mistakes you could possibly make.
But now I’ve already had a few hundred battles on all of these vehicles and messed up the statistics, and it’ll take a while to fix that.
But does not change the fact that I already have over 600 battles experience in a tank.

Most of those who claim that the German TT has the best vehicles and then mainly drive Russian vehicles start doing so at some point.
experience.

Uh yea, no. Even in mixed matches against other BVM drivers most of them have no clue where to shoot, I’ve had B3Ms and BVMs constantly trying to shoot my driver hatch which is barely modelled.

The irony of this is that I’ve had the least amount of success against German only teams, and the most against US only teams.

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bvm is braindead tank just press E 8x and push enemy spawn.

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I also doubt this to be the case.
Someone unskilled will drive carelessly, overextend and his bad reverse might be his demise.
Also, someone unskilled might try to peek from an elevation too steep for his gun depression to handle, resulting in, yet again, overextending situation.

Fair enough.
From my experience playing several nations at top tier, Swedish tanks are best all-rounders, at least in my opinion. They are good at literally everything, they have pretty nice armor so bouncing shots shouldn’t be that hard. Also, they have good mobility, both forwards and backwards meaning you can easily get around the place.
Gun depression is also pretty good which means even maps with loads of elevation shouldn’t be a problem.

Play 5.7+ and what level/experience/number of spaded vehicles do you see on teams, specifically a big 3 nation as Germany? Do you see nations comprised of one nation almost exclusively?

This pattern has lasted a long long while yet not seen as worth any consideration!

A recent Jap match with France and 90% Germany was won yesterday (observed), and by almost the conclusion almost 50% of my team in their Tigers etc were on sub 200 score, the match being win by 1 EBR doing all the work with 3 others, across the map, in support. The 50% were not even dying, just doing nowt… and they got a +1 to their wins with 0 effort.

Happens to all Big 3 but this was one of the oddest I have seen.

There are clearly issues of undertiering by bad yse by players that probably won’t even spade said vehicles and already on their way to clot even higher BRs.

I almost ventured into 8.0+ but notice (personally, very few matches overall) the same dire play and ideology.

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That’s the point, a lot of BVM players do that and get away with it. It has one of the lowest skill floors amonst top tier MBTs and is bailed out a lot of times thanks to its damage model.

If you take a minor nation player (say someone who’s spent the last 3 years playing nothing but the Type 90), chances are he will single-handely dominate the match in a BVM because he won’t take chances, but when he does, the low skill floor of the BVM will aid him in winning a duel.

An overextending Type 10 or Chally 2 is dead no matter what, an overextending BVM has an actual shot at surviving.

BVM’s low skill floor imo is the biggest reason why it manages to perform so well, the rest being secondary. Arguably speaking, BVM was never in a real position to perform as consistently as it did, yet thanks to its damage model and low skill floor, it still pulled off the impossible.

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Only against worse players.
I perform identically in it as I do nearly all my other top tanks, cause I tend to face equally skilled players on average.

@FurinaBestArchon
2A5 players seem to know the idler wheel weakspot of all tanks.
Which is THE weakspot on CQC maps since the aggressor always has to show their weakspot.

If more people were taught that, they’d have easier time against BVM & Strv 122.

Sure, and your basis for that statement is?