Mobility on the Leo isn’t that spectacular, and being average or poor in every other category isn’t really a flex.
Especially when it goes up against stabilizers, thermals, AFPSDS, autocannons etc.
I can dismiss your opinion regardless if you use TS or not so it doesn’t matter.
It has substantial mobility advantage over various 8.0 tanks. Also, as I said, It has pretty average gun handling, reload speed and armament. Only thing that’s below average or poor is armor.
Basically Leopard I will trade armor for mobility, which in my eyes is a pretty good tradeoff at the tier where armor is often simply ignored.
One thing to add, a vehicle doesn’t need to flex over other vehicles at a given BR just to be eligible to share the same BR, that’s quite a ridiculous need you’re expressing here.
Other 8.0 mediums are facing the same exact things, so I can’t see your point here.
Bottom line is, Leopard I is capable of fighting at the same efficiency level (at least) of most 8.0 contemporaries, so yet again, I don’t understand your frustrations with it.
All your statements just show me that you have no idea and your player card proves me right!
You have the most battles in an Italian Leo1.
However, in second place is the T-80BVM with 360% more battles, the best tank in the whole game and suprise, the T-72A on 5th Place with 316% more Battles as a Leopard 2A4.
That only tells me one thing: The Leo 2 are probably not as good as you claim and you contradict yourself!
Next you probably want to tell us how bad the Russian planes and helicopters are!
PS: the Russian forum is one click away
Asking this, then saying this
Basically debunks this
You essentially say that the average experience of German playerbase is as a whole worse than ones of a minor nation, which simply reinforces my point.
I’m saying Germany is average compared to minor nations that are above average.
“I’m saying Germany is average compared to minor nations that are above average.”
uh… wut?
Germany is one of, if not THE Best nation in the game… Sure it has a higher skill cap, and people need to know how to use the tanks, primarily their armor/angles… but besides that… it basically has the best guns and rounds in the entire game, for their BR. So im not sure if you are just… confused or… meant something else, but this statement is not only false, it is the Opposite of true/accurate/correct
Maybe read the context of my comment if you’re confused then and realize I’m not talking about the vehicles.
maybe add a word or two , so instead of saying “I’m saying Germany is average compared to minor nations that are above average.”, and me, and others thinking you are an idiot, it says german AIR or… whatever else you are talking about. The fault at you being misunderstood is on You.
Okay buddy.
Germany is everything, but certainly not the best nation.
You already wrote it yourself, you need a very high skill cap to drive the vehicles somewhat successfully.
The other two most used nations are more forgiving of mistakes.
You named other Moron and your Statscard is laughing.
It’s amazing how many players here have a lot of knowledge about something that they barely or don’t play themselves!
its amazing how wrong you are.
I see that and that say it all to me!
what does it… say?
That you are a player who fights almost exclusively in the low tier.
That wouldn’t be so bad, but you refer to others as Moron who already play more in Hightier BR and know what they’re talking about.
I mean, you have over 20 thousand battles and you can’t actually get past rank 3.
You may be good at the lower levels, but what about when battles become dynamic and you can no longer camp in the corner?
High tier is Notorious for being garbage. most WT players think and agree that about 7.0 and below is the best ranges to play in… of which… i agree
You havnt proved a single thing by trying to “diss” me or anything of that nature… Not a single thing
Love you too.
The problem is that the higher the BR goes, the more cheaters there are and that makes the whole thing broken.
Gaijin boasts that they always block a certain amount of cheaters, but that is only a small percentage.
Have you ever thought about the fact that I didn’t mean to “diss” you?
I even praised you for being good at the ranks you’re in.
I just don’t think it’s appropriate to call others “Moron” when they talk about problems that are a few BR levels above what you drive.
Yesterday it was perhaps a little late and the words were not chosen quite as carefully, so I would like to apologize for that.
Thanks buddy, I appreciate your opinion.
Speaking of stat cards, I think your words are quite interesting and funny at the same time, when considered they come from a guy that can’t get his K/D over 1.0 in any vehicle, regardless of nation.
First of all, good job at proclaiming BVM as the best tank in the game while having exactly zero (0) games in it.
Second of all, let’s talk about 2A4. Seems to me your awful understanding of the game is quite obvious from the fact you totally forgot Sweden has two identical 2A4s as Germany, and of course, forgot to check my stats for them. Let me do your due diligence, you don’t need to thank me though.
Stats from my three 2A4s combined:
- 567 battles in total
- 1198 kills
- 63% WR
- 3.01 K/D
- 2.1 K/B
Looks like my stats are more than enough evidence to prove 2A4s can be used pretty effectively in that BR range.
You started “stat shaming” first so I will follow your example. Looks like to me your stats make each and every vehicle borderline unplayable, quite funny considering you are a premium lover.
I mean, how did you manage to get <1 K/D in 2S38 and TURMS, what’s the matter there buddy, can’t you farm all those godawfully useless Leopard 2s with ease ?
Difference between you and me is pretty simple, I can back up my claims with hard stats from playing the game, while on the other hand, you seem to talk out of your ass, performing equally bad in vehicles from both sides, but yet here you are complaining how a perfectly fine tank is somehow bad, probably just because it’s from a nation you sympathize.
Seriously, what has CAS to do in a discussion about 2A4s ?
It looks like you are grasping at straws, trying to derail the discussion after you have nothing else meaningful to say, just like a true NPC would do.
By the way, looking at your heli stats and that juicy 0.15 K/D with Ka-50 is more than enough to convince me not only Ka-50, but other helis as well, are complete and utter garbage. You saved me a bit of time researching those, thank you.
PS: YT tutorials on how to get better in WT are just one click away
You don’t and they aren’t, it’s just a pretty common cope mechanism.
That’s why you proclaimed BVM to be the best tank in the game with authority, while not even played a single game in it.
LOL.