I have friends with 7.3 lineups in other nations, so having the option to hang out in good company and game a bit at a BR they might like to play is good enough for me. Like I said, I haven’t played it since the previous round of BR changes, so yes, I have little incentive to play it solo.
I don’t even think I would have ever made a lineup higher than 6.7 if not for the Maus at 7.7. I’m not really interested in the postwar gameplay, so 8.0 and up is not my jam.
I mean Germany is pretty rough with how it has a gap from WW2 to cold war, and practically nothing from 7 to 7.7 anymore, whilst relying on heavy armor and APCBC, I wouldn’t voluntarily uptier a 6.7 lineup, especially since Gaijin, in it’s usual infinite wisdom, uptiered the Panther ll and Tiger 10.5 because muh statistics and now put it back in range of 8.0 because again, infinite wisdom.
Not even being a German player and agreeing with this is sad. It is in a sad state, I want to see the Sp-70/PzH155-1 or the PzH 2000 and they get an import of the M109 first, there’s tons of other things they can get, even the 2s1 gvosdika, and yes, the B3C has been in the Swedish tree but not the German? What is this game even doing, even Italy getting the AV-8B + before USA. There’s just so much being done, and if they add the Gripen to Italy before Sweden, idk what I’m gonna do.
It is why the three removed vehicles were originally in the game, and I disagree with the common take that this has been fixed, because what’s actually lacking is tanks whose design philosophy is pre-Korean War (still heavily influenced by WW2). Two of those 7.3 vehicles are premiums too, the Ru and the M47.
Still. What can you do. Other nations have much more troublesome gaps, and they should get priority. But I do hope we get a few more 7.0/7.3 vehicles some time down the line.
Creating incentives for players to grind minor trees to top tier, pretty transparently.
The gap between 8.0 and 8.7/9 is a bit naff too.
Swiss tanks or the Leo 1A1/1A3 would be nice to fill out the battle ratings. Germany needs a post war SPAA at the 7 to 8 bracket too, there must be some Gepard precursors that can be added surely.
this has been fixed
How can anyone come to that conclusion? It’s practically the same situation as it was years ago, after the Panzer IVs a complete lack in variety and only the M41 is there as for some reason we still cannot get a light tank for Germany below that.
Moving the Leopard and everything to 8.0 and whatever surely didn’t help either now that Russia and France have free reign to fight 6.7 Germany in their stupid attempt at decompression or whatever they were trying to do.
The Leopard would never have needed to be undertiered if Gaijin didn’t have to “scramble” for a tech tree replacement for the Panther II. It is that simple.
The first half of that mistake has been corrected by uptiering the Leopard, which I agree was necessary. The second I doubt will be addressed in the foreseeable future, though I’d like that. Until then, eh. I’ll do without. The Maus at 7.7 is great fun, and for everything else, I’m happy to stay capped at 6.7.
The fact that there are some gaps in the TT for the Germans is not that dramatic.
Then take a look at the Swedes, it’s much worse there.
But what I find worse is that some vehicles are put on BR levels where they don’t belong because they are classified far too high.
Only Gaijin knows why.
Yes, I agree. I said as much myself:
Gaijin could simply fill 2 gaps with the same chassie. Light tank for germany at tier 3 and another light tank at 6.7.
There are so few vehicles between the leo marder etc. era and the end of ww2. Only m41 and m48 are there but light tanks and other vehicles are still missing
Seeing as how I’m already doing that, it’s not really a big deal, but the fact they aren’t getting anything major in updates isn’t fair.
I don’t respond to incentives like that either, I play what I play for reasons other than what Gaijin usually cooks up, but that’s normal, because I realise I’m pretty far from being the average player mentality-wise. Moves like these are not targeted to long time players who set their own goals, but to people that periodically drop out and back into the game.
Like what vehicles ?
so… a 7.3 lineup is… 1 tank and a… spaa?
I don’t see why a Leopard has to be 8.0, no stabilizer, no rangefinder, no APFSDS, no armor, no autoloader.
even if many people see it differently.
Leopard 2A4 + PzBtl are more like 10.0 and not 10.3 (Only on 10.3 the Leo’s are almost always matched with 11.3)
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Don’t have much knowledge about those so I won’t comment.
I don’t think Maus is unfairly put to 7.7.
Yes, it’s a niche vehicle that has to be played in a certain manner, but that’s to be expected from such a weird vehicle.
Eh, I don’t see a reason why those should be below T-80B and M1s.
Maus is completely fine at 7.7.
Spawn in Ru first. Scout as much as you can, use mobility to get to a good spot, then assess what the situation is after your first death.
A second spawn might present us with a couple options.
JPz 4-5 has the same cannon as the Ru, and is not less survivable or fast, though more situational because no turret. It might be under-BR’d, but it still works at 7.3 and even 7.7.
Wiesel if you need AA or you want to go cap something really fast.
If you die again, and can still afford to spawn, it’s likely that the match is in its closing minutes and many people are down to their last tanks. Anything left out from the list so far has a reasonable chance at seeing you through the end of the match.
This is how I approach 7.7 as well, with the only difference being that often there I spawn the Maus first.
I don’t play 7.3 solo very often because it’s boring. Not because I think that lineup is bad.
Maybe because it will trade blows with other 8.0 mediums such as M60 and is outright better than 7.7 mediums such as T-54 ?
I’d rather play most of the French tanks that are faster, better turret rotation, autoloaders and trade crappy APDS and HEATFS for APCBC at a lower BR.