A 9.7 using DM13 and no thermals my man
I took the kpz out of the lineups just because of the gun. The mobility is great and the 20mm gun is awesome but it doesn’t make up for the gun.
The leo 2k is a highly mobile MBT at 10.0, and it has DM23.
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Leo 2k is great, occasional trolly turret, amazing 20mm and superb mobility. Skill issue i guess
- It has DM23.
- DM13 is fine. There is nothing wrong with it at that BR.
- Thermals make almost no difference the vast majority of the time.
- Phenomenal mobility and gun handling.
The Leopard 2K is one of the best MBTs for its BR.
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This is literally all true, the 2k is a great tank
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Has a surprisingly trolly armour profile too, you should go through the turret and sometimes it just eats the shot. They are a menace
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The leopard 2k is an absolute fiend mate.
Still use at 12.0
It was even more of a menace on release day of 1.77.
Imagine a Leopard 2K with a black hole behind the mantlet and a 5 second reload at 8.7 at the time. Shit was wild.
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Shits still wild at 10.0 tbh man it absolutely sharts on the competition and the lack of thermals isnt even a hindrance
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Thermals on the 20mm also
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it used to have thermals, and IRL it did, but gaijin removed both the 20mm thermals and the main ones
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Its also mentioned in gaijins officially accepted book which is less accurate than janes. As well as its ability to fire hot atgms.
I think its pretty conclusive at this point that the bagel had apfsds.
Not to mention the helicopter warning system is an early irst tracker.
Reason #5000 as to why i hate gaijin.
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i assume this is satire otherwise i wanna see it so i can laugh at it lol
theres actually so much info about it.patents. design. testing.
i can share if u want
Im mad the idiots decided to pull an m735/walker bulldog on the bagel but its not that slow. Its still faster than many other tanks around its br.
Actual skill issue. Gen 1 thermals are pefectly fine and are far better for detection than optical sights. Thermals are great for detection, optics and ir nv are great for identification.
I use thermal imagers irl so my eyes are used to detecting differences in thermal signitures, and gen 1 thermals in game are very good quality compared to real gen 1 thermals and even consumer 160p grade thermals.
And if you think it isnt great right now BECAUSE it doesnt have irst then maybe you arent using it right. Because the bagel is one of the best spaas around its br. Its got a far better hevt shell than the 2s38 or cv9040s.
Irst would simply make it better than it already is.
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uhh this is IDR…
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Yes gaijin rejected janes and will no longer use it as a source.
International defense review was used to nerf the bagels hp to 600 despite being provably less accurate than janes.
This is a gaijin accepted source.
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ah i thought u meant gaijin published a book lol, mb
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IDR wasn’t used, IDR being proven unreliable IS why Janes is now rejected.
Other sources were used for Begleit’s 600HP.
But yeah, it’s current state is as-fast as 2S38 whereas prior it was faster.
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