Shits still wild at 10.0 tbh man it absolutely sharts on the competition and the lack of thermals isnt even a hindrance
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Thermals on the 20mm also
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it used to have thermals, and IRL it did, but gaijin removed both the 20mm thermals and the main ones
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Its also mentioned in gaijins officially accepted book which is less accurate than janes. As well as its ability to fire hot atgms.
I think its pretty conclusive at this point that the bagel had apfsds.
Not to mention the helicopter warning system is an early irst tracker.
Reason #5000 as to why i hate gaijin.
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i assume this is satire otherwise i wanna see it so i can laugh at it lol
theres actually so much info about it.patents. design. testing.
i can share if u want
Im mad the idiots decided to pull an m735/walker bulldog on the bagel but its not that slow. Its still faster than many other tanks around its br.
Actual skill issue. Gen 1 thermals are pefectly fine and are far better for detection than optical sights. Thermals are great for detection, optics and ir nv are great for identification.
I use thermal imagers irl so my eyes are used to detecting differences in thermal signitures, and gen 1 thermals in game are very good quality compared to real gen 1 thermals and even consumer 160p grade thermals.
And if you think it isnt great right now BECAUSE it doesnt have irst then maybe you arent using it right. Because the bagel is one of the best spaas around its br. Its got a far better hevt shell than the 2s38 or cv9040s.
Irst would simply make it better than it already is.
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uhh this is IDR…
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Yes gaijin rejected janes and will no longer use it as a source.
International defense review was used to nerf the bagels hp to 600 despite being provably less accurate than janes.
This is a gaijin accepted source.
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ah i thought u meant gaijin published a book lol, mb
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IDR wasn’t used, IDR being proven unreliable IS why Janes is now rejected.
Other sources were used for Begleit’s 600HP.
But yeah, it’s current state is as-fast as 2S38 whereas prior it was faster.
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Genuinely if it had thermals it could easily be 10.7 with the 2a4, the mobility of it is absolutely bonkers.
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I think in all honesty gaijin needs to review their rules for sources.
Not saying these specifically are right or wrong because genuinely i do not know.
But there are so many bug reports shut down, even with official sources because it does not meet a very specific criteria.
Like using the Haynes manual for example it doesnt get much official a source for a vehicle than a Haynes manual that tells you almost every intricate detail.
(This obviously excludes modern vehicles)
Like for example as well yhe m735 round ? They nerfed it immediately with an incorrect source, but when provided numerous sources which show the round was nerfed due to a mixup, have yet to accept it properly.
I dunno, i tried making a bug report for the l15A5 round but for the cannon on chieftain and cr1 and failed miserably as well.
Well, they did review them last year, which is how both IDR and Janes got on the no-use list.
They had to change many of the vehicles that previously used their information with more accurate information.
As for M735, while it was nerfed flat, it was not changed negatively on angled pen; time will tell if they finish their research on M735 anytime soon.
Right now the vehicles that have it are their BRs and its angled pen is still as good as its always been.
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As i said for the sources on the bagliets e.g IDR, janes etc i understand why gaijin chose not to use them, especially if they have been provided better more accurate sources and what not.
And for the m735 i personally find it fine on the platforms i use it on, wish it had a tad more angle pen but as you say thats not what was nerfed at all.
I was just using the example of the way they nerfed it very quickly with an incorrect source, over re evaluating it and maybe patching it with multiple sources etc.
I disagree (regarding bias claims) - at least for props in Air RB there is evidence enough that balancing of Germany vs USSR follows a pattern which can be seen as bias towards USSR aircraft - and subsequently against Germany.
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It doesn’t matter if you refer to cooking German engines (the same engines can be tamed by MEC as soon as they are used in a non German aircraft) or to open or hidden nerfs of weapons (like the recent MG 151/20 nerf).
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If you compare prop aircraft at similar BR ranges there is not a single German aircraft at prop BRs which is dominant vs the USSR counterpart in all of the main aspects relevant for fighters - speed, climb, turn and firepower, usually you have max 2 - often just one if you consider the wt meta which creates fights below 4 km. In other words: USSR is dominant.
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I would like to play more German prop aircraft, but from a general perspective they are usually outperformed and over-BRd whilst the USSR tend to be the opposite. It gets even worse at early jet BRs, stuff like BIs and Su-9/Su 11 outperform German jets substantially. The spading of the 262 A-2a was a real pain.
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In the past the rather too low BRs were somehow justified as the 20 mm ShVaks were the weakest cannons in the game and you could survive multiple hits, but since real shatter 2.0 & 3.0 2 hits are enough to kill a fighter - whilst the ballistic nerf of MG 151/20 shells made those inefficient like hell, at least for long range shots and friends of head-ons.
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So even if wt players using German vehicles had competitive hardware in Ground RB (and now even for Air RB) at high / top tier - at least for prop Air RB the fellow player @theHarbinger1231 is correct. You can quite easy assess this by checking match results: The total number of rookies / noobs able to score 3-5 kills in I-185s, Yak-3s at 4.0 or Yak 3-Us at 5.7 exceeds the number of their German counterparts by a hefty amount - leading to one clear conclusion: it’s the planes, not the pilots.
Have a good one!
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Rather funny i feel like some German aircraft perform better at slightly higher br’s like BF 109 G-14
I am happy for you that you feel this way - but that might be the result of playing Air RB not as your main mode. The G-14 at 5.3 gets outclimbed, outturned, outgunned and outrun by the 5.0 I-225…
oh yeah that’s for sure the G-14 its horrible at its current BR its overwhelmed by almost everything else in different aspects, that’s why i like to get at 5.7 or 6.0 with the help of a friend, at least in that BR i can turn faster than other planes, since now planes at that BR are heavier
You think? :D
They had to put GER into the game, just to have someone for the Allies to shoot at.
The best way is to stop playing.