Lets talk about the state of Germany

Just stop responding mate. You arent contributing a damn thing to the conversation at all xD just trynna what insult me?

I play the game because its one of the only if not only of its kind.
I come here to discuss ways we can fix, balance, and change the game for the benefit of folks like you who play it off the cuff.
Why insult me? What do you want? like are you just here to start a drama or something?

Soviets should be left out of it for the next 3 years or so. Seemed fair to them - seems fair to me :/

yes,UHT Very challenging of the player’s skills

Well, the Leopard II rear hemisphere nerf is rediculous. Is it even real? Its almost impossible to play now. Wounder why all other tanks can just fire 360 degree as they want.

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F18 only to germany while asking for equality and non flavor of the month? Did i miss something cause thats literally the opposite of what you want. If rather see nation with the least amount of rank 8 TT vehicles get more stuff. Its oke of the reasons id rather britain not get the F18 if the EFT comes since the EFT will be better.

idk i just hope they add EF for the 3 nations on next update to finally have something equal to the actual meta. What i wouldnt like is Gaijin adding more advanced vehicles to some nations and repeat the process of leave behind some nations on the meta like they did with Germany like 4 times already.

i dont want another “left behind” move to happen again

like some dude said before:

"Gen 4 air (mostly)came out with Apex Predators update, December 2022.
(US had already received the F14 in Danger Zone, June 2022)
Germany received an event tornado and the ASSTA1. They were useable in the beginning for base bombing, nothing much else.
USA received TWO (2) F16s.
USSR received Mig29.
Other nations received F16s.

Germany FINALLY received the first Mig29 (first top tier air rb useable plane) for update Sky Guardians, March 2023.
With this update came UPGRADED F16s, Yak 141.
(Now Germany are behind and have been since the first iteration of the new gen jets.)

La Royale, June 2023, brought F14 to America, TWO (2) SU variants for USSR, Upgraded Italian Tornado.
Germany still behind. (Not talking about other nations being behind as well, just Germany.)

Sons of Attila, September 2023, brought ANOTHER upgraded F16 for US, Upgraded Mig29 for USSR.
Germany still behind.

it wasn’t until Kings of Battle, October 2023, that Germany finally received their Top Tier Air RB compatible jet. Neither Major nation listed (USSR or US) received an upgrade to the current F16/F14/Mig29.
Germany can compete here.

Air Superiority, December 2023, brought F15s to US/JPN//Israel, Su-27 for USSR, Gripen, J-11 for China.
Germany received a premium Tornado (after BR changes rendering it essentially useless.)
Germany is BEHIND AGAIN.

Alpha Strike, March 2024 brought in new Gripen, not much else, F20 is meh.
Germany still behind.

Seek and Destroy, June 2024, brought in AMRAAMS, Upgraded F15, AV8B+, for US, Upgraded Su27 for USSR, Upgraded Tornado for Britain, Upgraded J-11 for China, and Germany received the F4F Ice.
Please do not make me go into detail about the ICE. 3rd Gen airframe is UNUSEABLE in Air RB, anyone saying otherwise is full of it. Also no HMD, radar search modes.
Germany is STILL behind and this time the gap is MASSIVE.

Dance of Dragons brought in Upgraded A10 for US, upgraded Su24 for USSR, Jf-17 and J-10 for China, Upgraded F16 for Israel.
Germany still behind."

things like that should stop, we should everyone get equals at the same time.

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Soviets have been left out for 3 years at this point, but this is the subject about Germany; and Germany has needed Typhoon since F-15C MSIP II came to War Thunder.

@鲁邦三世
Tiger UHT requires skill because ADATS + exists.
You have to use tactics that prevents a missile to your face.

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Ranks are just whatever.

You can have rank 7 jets be far lower then rank 6s.

Britian and italy should get it at the same time as Germany , considering britain put a huge amount of time into the RnD of it anyways.

Im saying this if they still want to keep adding shit in that manner. Personally prefer it all to come at once and for trees to stop being patch work messes of random nations stuff dotted here there neverywhere.

couldnt agree more. thats what i mean further up this nonsense has to stop man.

To be fair, Italy, Germany and Britain could all have done with the Typhoon rather than a gripen.
It feels mega strange for the best jet in Britain and Italy to have been the Gripen for so long.

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No Ranks determine research boosts.
Premiums ranks are more important than their BR. a Rank 6 aircraft will research Rank 7 aircraft faster but not a Rank 8 or 9

Yes, but ranks do not correlate to BRs. They are just whatever.

You can have a rank 7 be at a lower BR. There is no set for BRs.

True but, you cant have a rank 7 aircraft at 3.0
ranks are the brackets vehicles are generally put in then they are assigned BRs. BRs change though Rank very rarely does unless its decompressing top tier to allow a new premium vehicle to be added.

I can agree on that, they don’t usually up the ranks until they have a new shiney to sell(my guess is we are going to see a F-16 as premium)

I can totally see them adding something else in the meanwhile as a premium without upping the ranks tho.

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Strf 9040 been around longer, and still missing its Bofors 3P round (Literally just a better AHEAD round)

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Yeah I’m cool with Italy and Britain getting EFTs, as they should. To add on to the nonsense that needs to be stopped, stop adding new meta mechanics when some nations do no have a competitive platform to use it on. Some examples: F-4 ICE (this should be obvious) compared to any other nation with a fox-3 carrier, Glide bombs…so far Germany, Italy, and Japan do not have access to glide bombs (although not meta defining, I count them because Gaijin almost shoehorned the Grom-2 in the update), and GPS bombs. Up until recently Germany was one of three (iirc) nations that did not have a GPS bomb capable aircraft, even then the best you can do is carry 6 of them and they’re not even that good.

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Agreed.
And this adding equipment so heavily nerfed its near useless.

Look at brinstones being irl a formidable weapon system, in game its only sal, they could just implement its mode 2 and make it fnf.
Ive yet to see a gr4 in game.

Seen a few ice now but still barely any, or the tornado f3 late.
Its just so ridiculous.

Though at least germany has a fantastic ground tree! Genuinely stopped japan at 11.0 cause ot feels pointless to keep going

GR 4 does well but more because of the GPS bombs. and then Brimstone can be used when the SAMs are removed.

F.3 Late is still pain to play constant uptiers and issues with TWS and Aim120s being hilariously easy to defeat makes it weak

120s still being the best ARH missile or close to it.

The platform us the issue when jt comes to the 120s on the tornado

Again ive yet to see a gr4 in game and i purposfully left that line untouched until last so still.not got the gr4 myself.