We also have my opinion from October which you were there for.
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Correct.
See this:
Since the additions of 4th gen airframes, NO ONE WANTED THE ICE.
As we see now, it is DOA and unusable now. Tehy had to move it down .3 BR to ENTICE people to play it.
Too bad there isn’t a poll on that. Would like to see the percentage of votes.
yes i am and
it works fine
hence the 68 ground kills and over 100 air kills and only 105 deaths
“The only reason I ask is that you seem to not understand anything about the German tree, let alone their top tier air.”
you said this.
I literally listed my entire warthunder BRs for every single nation.
Lets see you do the same son and see where you sit to say germany suffers.
Oh right you literally cant as youve got next to no experience in any other nation at all. bar a few prems here n there.
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no they still wanted the damn ice they didnt suddenly not want it.
same as teh tornado F3 late is DOA and msot of the british equipment was and is xD or the italian stuff until very very recently. stop while youre ahead bud
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I see your frustration. Maybe there’s a fix to this? Gaijin limits what you can vote on based off vehicles you have? In order to get the most accurate data, get the info from people actually playing it.
I have a sneaking suspicion other nation are sabotaging votes/implementations. But who knows how much leverage this forum has, I hope it has a decent amount but…
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ive more experience at top tier than you and @Kmdo_Peach put together ive also got more of the top tiers in different nations than you both. so yes i know about top tier. i know how to avoid a pantsir, which if you can do ti in a damn A10A you can do it in a hunter that is faster and better at dodging missiles.
True, again if we only vuew the forum we wouldn’t get an accurate count of votes anyways. On the subreddit for older posts for the KWS or the Di you’ll see people both for and against it, the majority you can see actually change to against it after the KWS came out as people realized how bad the compression was. Again it would be crazy to think there wasn’t any against a vehicles introduction.
Long post with a opinion tied to it so pls no witch hunting i get that enough as is in DM’s from the 4 of you (you know who)
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People lost their minds when the 122B+ was added. I was against it. I play sweden, i play germany. I play almost every nation aside from China and Isreal. I have no interest in more MBT’s for sweden when their lower BR’s could use actual spaa or more vehicles. I dont just play top tier i play at all BR’s because i enjoy a lot of history. So seeing nations get yet another top tier addition that isnt needed when there are more important things Vex’s me. Sweden didnt need Finnish Leos, they need Patrias and unique finnish modifications to soviet vehicles, we got 1 unique tank the BT42. Completely skipping anything truly unique. Same goes for the 122, sweden didn’t need another 122 when gaijin is still adding unarmored leos to germany, the PSO shouldve gotten its fron plate armor. And when other nations have similar MBT lineups to Ger/Swe/Ru then id like to see other Leos pop up.
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Data could be skewed if they only go off total vehicles and not vehicles per game mode. I play German blue water and i need to get back to coastal but ive been grinding US and japan Coastal.
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Would love to see more low, mid and high mid br stuff added
Why France got stuffed with leos, italy, sweden already had its leos
Etc.
I agree with you i would love to see a lot of trees get filled with either home grown indigenous vehicles OR highly modified and changed vehicles.
Why we haven’t seen the pz61 yet is shocking alone
they should fix what is in game first and balaance. rather than balance being put a leopard or F16 in the tree
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Our UHT already has ASGARD, you can tell by the armour plates on the side of the cockpit.
Sure IF you can get a good flank. Unlike the strf 9040b it seriously struggles in frontal engagements. Simply due to its full sized 57mm shell getting caught on everything.
But yeah i shouldve made a bigger seperation in what i meant between the poor marders and the bagel.
But still the bagel should not have been one of the first tanks to get updated internals. Like they half assed the autoloader on the m1128, it cannot physically recoil without phasing through the autoloader rails. And it didnt even get the reat of the internals.
The laziness and lack of inteligent direction from the higher ups and devs for the parts of tje game that actually matter is depressing.
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Fact. On top of that, helicopters are too situational when you can fixed wing climb to 9000+ meters, and destroy enemies from orbit.
I can’t speak for others, but I prefer bringing LGBs with Tornado ASSTA [which has 6 of now] than grinding for Tiger UHT.
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they shouldnt be doing it in such small numbers tbh.
same for spall liners should do a full rank worth, release. repeat.
rather than throwing out random bits n bobs for random vehicles
Honestly, I wish it would. German top tier air is non-existent and adding the tranche 1 would bring it to a competitive level. This DOES NOT MEAN I only want Germany to get it, but treat other nations how Germany has been treated and add it an update after.
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No, it isnt.
Before other nations started getting Leopards, I would’ve agreed but not anymore. Especially after France mains got several Leopards they didn’t want.
You get, at most, 2 mavericks. With how they act, you most likely have to fire both at the same target just to secure the kill. Other nations have jets that are on a better airframe and/or carry more than just 2.
Don’t even bring the UHT into this because its lacking in its own department by not getting the extra launchers it can have and not having a cannon upgrade that it could get.
Not to mention the ASSTA 3 upgrade for the IDS is not even correct/worth it as LJDAMs are just GBUs that can use GPS but once you turn on your laser, it messes up all of them that you’ve dropped.
Finally something smart.
Correct, but they have comparable vehicles, though they still need more.
And thats somehow Germany’s problem? Its not hard to find examples of France mains giving ideas of native vehicles Gaijin cold add.
That doesn’t really make top tier Germany any worse.
It’s ground tree still is easily a top 3 tree, and the air tree is acceptable outside a few BRs.
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It does by Germany not being unique enou
Ground is okay but not unique.
Im curious as to what you think is acceptable and what BRs because top tier is not one of them.
For air, 1.0-5.7, 8.3-9.3, and 10.7-11.7 (the MM is awful at those BRs tho). Top tier and 6.0-8.0 are the major weak points in the tree, and it makes for a rough experience.
What is this German main cope. They are still easily one of the top 3 ground nations lol. Only other nation that is contesting them for second place is Russia, which isn’t because of their tanks.
And no, France getting a 2A5 and 2A6 doesn’t magically make them a better ground nation.
You can pretty much devide top tier ground nation into 3 categories:
- Nations with 122/2A7 equivalent (Sweden, Germany and Italy).
- Russia (due to having Kh38 capable CAS).
- Everyone else.
And Generally 1. And 2. make up the top 4, maybe you could throw in the US in the top 4 over Italy. However overall nations without a 122/2A7 counterpart suffer a lot more.
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