Lets talk about the state of Germany

spionage go brrrrrrrt

Would greatly appreciate someone checking out my report. thx!
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/zX1f53EtPiof

1983 units didnt have K-5 nor even K-1 and were still named as T-80A, the name they held all up until getting accepted into service.
Considering the amount of non K5 T-80A on trials, I would say probably even more 1985 part didnt have it fully or had it in testing configuration.

Why is this place always so damn spicy?

You are probably confusing this with the ER

R73, i can even look up MatAWGs video where he states this

Actually a good question.

Does the book have any extra information on how they got the T-80U? I’m genuinely interested in the story of how the Germans managed to steal a T-80U from Belarus, it sounds like something out of a movie.

the german unification was end of 1990, the DDR still was a thing belarus and east germany were pretty much allied under russia

Might that explain your question?

its always luque comming to say something without any apport to the theme of conversation just to get us mad about anything

Sadly, I haven’t got the book yet… For such questions, @Drag0oon is your man, as the photos are from him. I imagine, however, that the book doesn’t go too deep into this, as it’s a matter of national secrecy (it seems like that to me at least). The previous iteration of the book had also been co-signed by Frank Lobitz, who is the current Project Manager of the Leopard 2 for the Bundeswehr, meaning he has access to all this information. Wolfgang Schneider, on the other hand, served in the Bundeswehr for 41 years between 1969 and 2010, leaving with a rank of Oberst/Colonel. This current version of the book has Lobitz crossed out or removed, so I reckon he may have asked Schneider to become the only signatory because of information like that about the acquisition of a T-80U.

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Sadly the mention of the T80U was specific to that one mention, there were no other mentions of the entire event.

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It was stated that they had it in 1985 though

Sad, thanks for answering though!

again read what i wrote 1985 east germany was under russian goverment and allied to belarus pretty much. 1990 was the unification where germany stopped being allied to russia

1990 comes after 1985 do you not understand that?

As a result we can discern that germany wouldnt have needed to do some spy work, but that it rather was a trade /exchange between allied nations

West Germany is not an ally of Belarus. The book states that West Germany recieved the T-80U in 1985.

(East) German (GDR) units never got the T-80U, the best they had was the T-72M1

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its not too difficult to stage an espionage operation when there are two countries with the same name allied with different halfs of the world.

PARS 3 BACK IMAGE

Apparently PARS 3 LR was upgraded to this capability as per this video at 0:39 seconds it shows a man-in-the-loop system which is what back image intended to provide.

does anyone have more information about this?

Wait, these fucking numbers on the PARS pod are real??? Wtf