I would love to see the kurz ingame as a low tier wiesel and as a rank 3 light tank which germany lacks (maybe 4.3 to 5.3 or something).
The lang is already in warthunder but with a recoilless rifle and the chassie is really bad. It’s slow and has next to no armor. I dont think it is needed
They’re identical to the 2A4 for all intents and purposes, good for the line-up but might as well aim for something more unique like the Leopard 2AV w/L44 and Leopard 2/140 instead (the one based on the PT-19 turret of the 2AV, so it wouldn’t have thermals).
They are not, 2a4 has thermals, digital fcs, the old leopard 2´s dont until the A3 I think tho that one was just diffrent paint. They have nvg´s and the turret has some weakspots on the side. They are nother story. There are consiedrble diffrences as they are with the T72 line. Ammo wise too. armour wise too.
itts not a question of need or how good it is. Its simply in the inventory of the BW and there fore it belongs in the tree. There cant be only nitpicking of the best of the best. There are good vehciels and there are bad ones. Got to live with it and go throu them.
Leopard 2s started to receive WBG-X starting with the 2A1, it was the 2A0 that didn’t have thermals. This game doesn’t even simulate FCS’ to begin with, so it doesn’t matter if Leopards 2s pre A4 variant didn’t have a digital FCS.
turret has some weakspots on the side
So does the current in-game 2A4, it’s a modified batch 1 - 4 vehicle after all. The only Leopard 2s to not have the ammunition loading hatch are batch 5 - 8 & foreign variants like the Strv 122.
armour wise too.
What’s the difference between a 2A1 and a 2A4 armor-wise, according to you, then? Because it was only starting with the 6th batch that a new armor package had been installed. The in-game Leopard 2A4 is not a batch 6, 7, or 8 vehicle, so it doesn’t have C-technology.
A reason more for those leoaprds to be in so the leo2a4 can get the c-tech.
This would difrenatet and sperate the leopards even more. A L2A0 with NVG´s only woud be cool.
And FCS is kind in the in the game. Look at 2S36 and puma and bmps with there only automatic target aim at airtargets. Its just a mater of adding it to the respective vehicels.
I am all for more tanks but this are tanks that where in service and the otehr one are experimental units.
Add all of them The service ones in tech three the experimental ones as premium/event vehicels.
Which the current 2A4 can’t because it’s not of the right batch for it.
And FCS is kind in the in the game. Look at 2S36 and puma and bmps with there only automatic target aim at airtargets. Its just a mater of adding it to the respective vehicels.
Auto-tracking is a feature of FCS, but FCS as a whole is not in the game. That aside, Leopard 2s don’t have auto-tracking so you can’t even claim they have FCS in WT.
I was not talking about autotracking but the leading of moving targets and that the leo2 has as do the m1´s and all western mbt´s. Its part of the fcs system. to shoot on move moving targets
Auto-lead hasn’t been implemented in GRB.
Lets hope it will in future updates. This would also add a disdiguising factor fron western and eastern MBT´s. We fight at the moment eastern style. They just have rangefinders.
Always hope for the best.
Been long time since it in the game still don’t even get fix
Well i’ll guess i’ll stick with Sweden feeding it Russian tanks for while
I trust the smoke more than random WT teammates to cover me. Might as well if my gun is out.
The outcry would be insane. They would not allow NATO vehicles to have such advantage over soviet s*boxes
Why flag this?
I really hate the philosophy they’ve been using. Instead of properly representing the capabilities of western vehicles and slightly buffing soviet tanks so they’re more competitive, all they do is nerf the western ones to the point where they’re nearly as sh*t as the soviet counterparts
Why’d this get flagged?
Quite hillarious how only Germany’s Leopard 2s seem to suffer from nuclear breaches…
I believe this only happens on certain angles,otherwise Swedish leopards also suffers from same issue.
Nevertheless both tanks should recieve same treatment no matter what, and that is revoming the nuclear blast effect.
I miss my working Spall liner, maybe some day in a few years it will work again…
Maybe in the case of Strv 122s, but when it comes to the 2A7 HU, I’ve noticed that the angle’s irrelevant and the breach eats up all the spall (both in matches and in controlled environments).
I’ve been also told that 2A7 HU has received an updated DM for the breach, which might explain the difference. The question is, however, why only the 2A7 HU and not the 2A7V?
I specifically checked Strv’s when this issue mentioned, its obvious Strv’s only benefits from this advantage on certain angles.
I guess Italy became new Germany in Gaijin’s eyes.
Germany became forgotton children at this point…
Tbh im so close to finishing Leopard2A7V grinding but my hands are pulling away, why should i play with nerfed leopard when i can use my Strv’s?
At this point just grind Italy. The 2A7 HU is on track to receive all of the fixes promised for the 2A7V before the 2A7V receives them it seems + their helis & jets are better. KF 41 is arguably also better than the Puma. The only thing Germany has going for it is that they get more Leo 2s in a single line-up, and a better SPAA.