Lets talk about the state of Germany

Leopard 2s started to receive WBG-X starting with the 2A1, it was the 2A0 that didn’t have thermals. This game doesn’t even simulate FCS’ to begin with, so it doesn’t matter if Leopards 2s pre A4 variant didn’t have a digital FCS.

turret has some weakspots on the side

So does the current in-game 2A4, it’s a modified batch 1 - 4 vehicle after all. The only Leopard 2s to not have the ammunition loading hatch are batch 5 - 8 & foreign variants like the Strv 122.

armour wise too.

What’s the difference between a 2A1 and a 2A4 armor-wise, according to you, then? Because it was only starting with the 6th batch that a new armor package had been installed. The in-game Leopard 2A4 is not a batch 6, 7, or 8 vehicle, so it doesn’t have C-technology.

A reason more for those leoaprds to be in so the leo2a4 can get the c-tech.
This would difrenatet and sperate the leopards even more. A L2A0 with NVG´s only woud be cool.

And FCS is kind in the in the game. Look at 2S36 and puma and bmps with there only automatic target aim at airtargets. Its just a mater of adding it to the respective vehicels.

I am all for more tanks but this are tanks that where in service and the otehr one are experimental units.

Add all of them The service ones in tech three the experimental ones as premium/event vehicels.

Which the current 2A4 can’t because it’s not of the right batch for it.

And FCS is kind in the in the game. Look at 2S36 and puma and bmps with there only automatic target aim at airtargets. Its just a mater of adding it to the respective vehicels.

Auto-tracking is a feature of FCS, but FCS as a whole is not in the game. That aside, Leopard 2s don’t have auto-tracking so you can’t even claim they have FCS in WT.

I was not talking about autotracking but the leading of moving targets and that the leo2 has as do the m1´s and all western mbt´s. Its part of the fcs system. to shoot on move moving targets

Auto-lead hasn’t been implemented in GRB.

Lets hope it will in future updates. This would also add a disdiguising factor fron western and eastern MBT´s. We fight at the moment eastern style. They just have rangefinders.

Always hope for the best.

Been long time since it in the game still don’t even get fix
Well i’ll guess i’ll stick with Sweden feeding it Russian tanks for while

I trust the smoke more than random WT teammates to cover me. Might as well if my gun is out.

The outcry would be insane. They would not allow NATO vehicles to have such advantage over soviet s*boxes

Why flag this?

I really hate the philosophy they’ve been using. Instead of properly representing the capabilities of western vehicles and slightly buffing soviet tanks so they’re more competitive, all they do is nerf the western ones to the point where they’re nearly as sh*t as the soviet counterparts

Why’d this get flagged?

Same thing with Strvs, their breaches produce no spall as seen here.

It’s all so tiresome…

Quite hillarious how only Germany’s Leopard 2s seem to suffer from nuclear breaches…

I believe this only happens on certain angles,otherwise Swedish leopards also suffers from same issue.

Nevertheless both tanks should recieve same treatment no matter what, and that is revoming the nuclear blast effect.

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I miss my working Spall liner, maybe some day in a few years it will work again…

Maybe in the case of Strv 122s, but when it comes to the 2A7 HU, I’ve noticed that the angle’s irrelevant and the breach eats up all the spall (both in matches and in controlled environments).

I’ve been also told that 2A7 HU has received an updated DM for the breach, which might explain the difference. The question is, however, why only the 2A7 HU and not the 2A7V?

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I specifically checked Strv’s when this issue mentioned, its obvious Strv’s only benefits from this advantage on certain angles.

I guess Italy became new Germany in Gaijin’s eyes.

Germany became forgotton children at this point…

Tbh im so close to finishing Leopard2A7V grinding but my hands are pulling away, why should i play with nerfed leopard when i can use my Strv’s?

At this point just grind Italy. The 2A7 HU is on track to receive all of the fixes promised for the 2A7V before the 2A7V receives them it seems + their helis & jets are better. KF 41 is arguably also better than the Puma. The only thing Germany has going for it is that they get more Leo 2s in a single line-up, and a better SPAA.

Tbh i dont wanna grind copy paste italy, waiting for Denmark Leopard2A7V for Swedish tree is much better option in my book.

Plus Gaijin will most likely add better Cv90 variants which will suit my playstyle even more.

Im just sad that Germany, the country that produces all those vehicles are the one who left in desert to rot, its simply unacceptable…

Cant wait Italy getting a 2A8 before Germany gets it

I don’t disagree with the other parts, but the KF41 is a joke at 10.7.