Lets talk about the state of Germany

u are ignoring here that it is 12.7, and the tornado literaly gets aim 9m and aim 120b at the exact same br

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@Smin1080p Are the developers planning on giving AIM-9Ms or RB-74(M)s to ICE as stand-ins for the AIM-9L(I-1)? Cause as of now, this jet is barely 12.3 worthy.

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I cant help that Germany never operated the Aim 9M
As a Tornado fan i would have liked Aim9 Li

The F-4F could get the IRIS-T

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South Africa never operated SkyFlash on their Gripens (UK still got it), French Tigers never operated HOT-3 (they literally couldn’t).

The “never operated” is no longer an argument you can use here.

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sweden didnt operate aim 9ms either but here we are

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What a joke.

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It isnt hard to defeat i only need to flare 2 times

Well it was Germanys F-4 that started that controversy…Aim9J…Never heard of her mate

Funny, cause that’s also on Gaijin lmao. We all wanted 9Ls for that jet, they forced 9Js on us so that it can be at a lower BR.

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Man the issue here is that putting the F4F ICE at 12.7 it’s too much i’m all honesty, as of rn it sucks compared to all other AMRAAM slingers

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German players should unite with other oppressed nations to resist gaijin

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IRL or in WT?

I wanna bet

I just find it funny how mike asked why people wanted the ICE. Yeah what would have been the other option?

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Eurofighter DA.1 Hehe

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Oh yeaa true, didn’t quite catch that when watching the stream.

Our only other alternative is either EFT before anybody else, or a sub-tree nation with a 4th gen airframe (but apparently that makes all other nation mains cope and seethe).

F-4F ICE at 12.7 (Same BR as F-15, F-16, Gripen, Su-27, 1 whole BR over M2000C and so on) is I N S A N E.
Having fox 3s on that old platform DOES NOT make it 12.7. J-8F is getting fox 3s and it’ll be at a lower BR, but still, get an F-4 to fight a J-8, guess what happens. An F-4 competing with the current top tier with AIM-9Ls, but hey it has AMRAAMS, am I right?

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Pretty much, yep

not to mention F-4F ICE getting the worst variant of AMRAAM too

I just wish gaijin would give us a statement for the future of the german tree (like a future subtree is planned or something like that).

It’s not only top tier, but whole rank 6+ for germany which is critical. Other nations have still many options left there while germany has realisticly just another tornado and 2 or 3 eurofighters. Planes like the alpha jet ice never went anywhere. Vj-101, vak191 are unlikely aswell. So just 4 planes left.

Seems like the future of the german air tree are ww2 planes

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