Lets talk about the state of Germany

We shall see, its a definite upgrade, what else could Gaijin have given you?

IRCCM missiles maybe? How about better Mavericks too?

It’s as much of an upgrade as Pz. 2F is over the Pz. 2C

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Bro wth, ICE have worse RWR then F4E on dev stream.

Worst RWR and no IRCCM missiles, Amazing job gaijin…

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If you wanna be like that, its the F-4F Kampfwertsteigerung Luftverteidigung

Behave an aim9L rear aspect is hard to defeat.
The Aim120 and Radar are the selling points
Smaller teams you dont need to dogfight.
Yes like the Tornado it wont be meta

Its really not…

No IFF interrogator on the radar apparently

It’s not?

The Aim120 and Radar are the selling points

Doesn’t matter when multipath is the same as always, you can just hug the ground and the “selling point” is dead weight.

Yes like the Tornado it wont be meta

This is beyond “not being meta”, ICE is completely DOA. Worse IR missiles, less CMs, worse RWR.

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Thats a bug it uses the FA-18 radar APG 65Y

u are ignoring here that it is 12.7, and the tornado literaly gets aim 9m and aim 120b at the exact same br

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@Smin1080p Are the developers planning on giving AIM-9Ms or RB-74(M)s to ICE as stand-ins for the AIM-9L(I-1)? Cause as of now, this jet is barely 12.3 worthy.

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I cant help that Germany never operated the Aim 9M
As a Tornado fan i would have liked Aim9 Li

The F-4F could get the IRIS-T

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South Africa never operated SkyFlash on their Gripens (UK still got it), French Tigers never operated HOT-3 (they literally couldn’t).

The “never operated” is no longer an argument you can use here.

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sweden didnt operate aim 9ms either but here we are

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What a joke.

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It isnt hard to defeat i only need to flare 2 times

Well it was Germanys F-4 that started that controversy…Aim9J…Never heard of her mate

Funny, cause that’s also on Gaijin lmao. We all wanted 9Ls for that jet, they forced 9Js on us so that it can be at a lower BR.

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Man the issue here is that putting the F4F ICE at 12.7 it’s too much i’m all honesty, as of rn it sucks compared to all other AMRAAM slingers

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German players should unite with other oppressed nations to resist gaijin

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