Lets talk about the state of Germany

IRL or in WT?

I wanna bet

I just find it funny how mike asked why people wanted the ICE. Yeah what would have been the other option?

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Eurofighter DA.1 Hehe

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Oh yeaa true, didn’t quite catch that when watching the stream.

Our only other alternative is either EFT before anybody else, or a sub-tree nation with a 4th gen airframe (but apparently that makes all other nation mains cope and seethe).

F-4F ICE at 12.7 (Same BR as F-15, F-16, Gripen, Su-27, 1 whole BR over M2000C and so on) is I N S A N E.
Having fox 3s on that old platform DOES NOT make it 12.7. J-8F is getting fox 3s and it’ll be at a lower BR, but still, get an F-4 to fight a J-8, guess what happens. An F-4 competing with the current top tier with AIM-9Ls, but hey it has AMRAAMS, am I right?

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Pretty much, yep

not to mention F-4F ICE getting the worst variant of AMRAAM too

I just wish gaijin would give us a statement for the future of the german tree (like a future subtree is planned or something like that).

It’s not only top tier, but whole rank 6+ for germany which is critical. Other nations have still many options left there while germany has realisticly just another tornado and 2 or 3 eurofighters. Planes like the alpha jet ice never went anywhere. Vj-101, vak191 are unlikely aswell. So just 4 planes left.

Seems like the future of the german air tree are ww2 planes

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It would just be better to have a Danish F-16AM exactly like the Belgian one then. I’m not a German main but I’m starting to believe they’re running out of excuses to just hate Germany in this game. They get decent or even really good things, but it takes A WHILE for that to happen. Everyone getting amazing platforms, France getting F-16As at 12.0 with 6 9Ms, and Germany gets an F-4 with AMRAAMS and 9Ls to compete with all that? Lmaoooo

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12.7 with no IRCCM missile is out of the world… especially with competing top jets has like 100+ countermeasures

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denmark was confirmed to go to sweden

Literally this but for anything. Like please tell me that literally ANYTHING is planned. It just seems like they do things with no plan for the future at all. It’s so odd

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after dumping all of its AMRAAM the ICE has no means to defend itself… poor maneuverability + no IRCCM missile

gonna look like this, fly high lock targets shoot your missles return to base immediatly, literaly no reason to do anything else

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Yeah and explanations why they add things like benelux/netherlands to france or swiss hunter to germany. They always add things and the community manager needs to write an explanation after 10+ pages complaining. Why can’t they explain this shit first.

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I’d also like to talk about the Brazilian AMX at 12.0 with 2 45g missiles… with NO IRCCM. God even the Su-25BM with 2 R-73s is 11.3. Wow look 45G missiles… which can be flared hitting the button like 2 times, welp, guess it’s a 12.0. I’ll look for another post to discuss on that since this is out of topic for this one.

But the main point is, some BRs are just messed up, I know it’s still WIP, it was only the dev stream, but some BRs featured in the dev stream are just insane to keep. F-16A with 6 9Ms at 12.0? Give me a break

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Well then it’s so over for Germany 🤣

Fr. Like if they told us “hey we’re planning on doing (thing)” months in advance, it would give time for the community to critique and agree/disagree with the devs instead of just all exploding 3 days before the whatever is going to be added is actually added.
If people have to figure out what you’re doing based on leaks, you aren’t communicating with your playerbase enough.

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fly high

gets slapped by MICA/R77 from 20+km

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